[1st-mile-nm] NM DoIT Broadband Program: Update (Wacked Speeds)

Clarke, George, DoIT george.clarke at state.nm.us
Tue Apr 9 17:54:54 PDT 2013


Dear John:

Geez, I wish you'd not be so shy with your opinions and technical expertise.  So, give me a solution.  We all know, even those who have never laid fiber, that speed testing can be a little better than spitting in the April Winds at times.  However, to limit the anomalies, I chose to not use the FCC Site, yet to bring the Speed Testing Application (Ookla) closer to home at UNM.  We have done some fine tuning and configuring to test high-speed networks/high latency scenarios.  So, this is a "flawed" test site?  What can I do to make it better.  I appreciate you taking the time to compare results and report the issues.  However, please advise me on how to improve our application.  Others on this service may have some suggestions as well.

Speed Blitz:  Getting this cleaned up will be great as we're on the verge of launching a Speed Test Blitz.  Please understand that our intent is not to split hairs on adequately serviced sites, yet identify those areas within the state that have inadequate service.  The NM Broadband Program (NMBBP) will harvest the results, geocode the addresses, overlay these "points" onto census blocks, and aggregate these data.  The assessment will take in "time series" analytics by stratifying a 24 hour period, parsing by technology type, and producing categories that will support our regional implementation pilots.

Now if I was Mr. Google, I'd solve the broadband issue in a nanosecond.  Also, my hearing has been compromised by a surfing accident many years ago, yet I am not deaf.  Lastly, I am appreciative of the emails received in the last two days complimenting the work we're doing.

  - NMBBP Speed Test:  http://nmbbmapping.org/speedtest/

Cordially,  GAR


Gar Clarke, Tax Payer
Broadband Program Manager
Department of Information Technology
Simms Building
715 Alta Vista Street
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
Email:  george.clarke at state.nm.us<mailto:george.clarke at state.nm.us>
Desk:  505.827-1663
Cell:  505.690-1661
Fax:  505.827-2325
BB Web:  http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/




-----Original Message-----
From: 1st-mile-nm-bounces+george.clarke=state.nm.us at mailman.dcn.org [mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces+george.clarke=state.nm.us at mailman.dcn.org] On Behalf Of John Brown
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 3:14 PM
To: Gary Gomes; rl at 1st-mile.com; '1st mile nm'
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] NM DoIT Broadband Program: Update

I agree.

I've raised this question before, only to fall upon deaf ears.  There is no actual validation of the test results

The "speedtest" site is a flawed test point.
        1. there appear to be TCP  issues as the test doesn't properly complete.
        2. it does not make use of actual speedtest data / sites around the globe
        3. The routing path to this site is POOR, packet path is 15+ hops away and takes multiple states to get to the UNM site.
        4. Latency to the site is HIGH, which colors the test.
        5. UNM does NOT have even have remotely a good connection to the general Internet.
        6. There is no public information on what available bandwidth is for this site, or how far nested into UNM's network the site is located.

Testing to the ABQ Comcast site from our Fiber network shows  67 mbps down and 37 mbps up, and this is going through our office firewall.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2630019517.png

Testing to our speedtest server, also via our office firewall shows.   74 mbps down and 47 mbps up.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2630022192.png


So similar results via the firewall.  Comcast and our network only intersect via transit providers out of state.

The UNM test site shows from the same desktop / firewall path

3.58 Mb/s down and 12.8Mb/s up.   Very much WAY OUT OF WACK.

In performing tests from a number of locations, I would believe that this test site is LIMITED to not more than around 20Mb/s worth of actual internet traffic.  So not really an accurate test of higher speed services, if the test point is itself LIMITED.


I love how year after year we all have the committee meetings and focus groups and master plans.
All with and by people that generally have never actually built fiber networks.
End result, more wasted money, more studies, no network.
Do we actually move policies forward that truly enable new providers to provide, NOPE.
Do we remove the real barriers to construction costs and network deployment costs, NOPE.

Google had it right.  They are building their stuff BECAUSE THEY CAN, .Gov be dammed.


At present I see this as a waste of tax payer money.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org [mailto:1st-mile-nm-
> bounces at mailman.dcn.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gomes
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:45 PM
> To: rl at 1st-mile.com; '1st mile nm'
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] NM DoIT Broadband Program: Update
>
> Richard/Gar,
>
> I am wondering where the data comes from and who benefits by the inclusion
> or exclusion of coverage areas that are shown on the interactive map.
>
> I own a home in the "Talavera" area of suburban Las Cruces.  It is a pretty large
> geographical area (app 6 square miles) and it shows up as having Cable
> internet coverage.  It does NOT.
>
> Comcast is the local Cable provider and they do not serve that area - one can
> confirm that by trying to order service to the house 5085 Copper Bar Rd Las
> Cruces, NM 88011.
>
> Obviously this makes me very suspicious of the entire endeavor.
>
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org
> [mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org] On Behalf Of Richard
> Lowenberg
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:48 PM
> To: 1st mile nm
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] NM DoIT Broadband Program: Update
>
> A few weeks ago, Gar Clarke provided an encapsulated update on the NM
> Broadband Program, which is this State's NTIA funded broadband mapping,
> planning, capacity building and technical assistance initiative.
>
> I urge you to bookmark and occasionally look at the program web site for added
> information and materials, and for those with time and interest, to please
> participate in the process
> at:  http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/index.shtml
>
> In this update, I'd like to note that a NM Working Group had its first meeting on
> March 27, with additional meetings now scheduled, leading to a late Summer
> report and action agendas.
> Surveys have been prepared to address education, healthcare and economic
> development issues and information gathering.
> See:  http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/bb_workgroup.shtml
>
> The New Mexico Broadband Program (NMBBP) is launching two Regional
> Broadband Implementation Plan (RBIP) Pilots within the State to be completed
> by September 2014. These Pilots will not only provide technical assistance to
> help the regional groups chosen achieve a solid planning, funding and
> technology framework, but will also identify future funding to expand this
> implementation concept
> throughout New Mexico.   To apply by May 17, See:
> http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/surveys.shtml      and:
> http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/docs/NMBBP_RBIP_Application_final.p
> df
>
> The New Mexico Broadband Program Community Broadband Master Plan
> Guidebook   Version 1.1, March 2013    has just been posted.
> http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/reports/NM_Broadband_Guidebook_v1
> _1_fi
> nal.pdf
>
> New Mexico Broadband Program Speed Test has also been deployed.
> Give it a try:  http://nmbbmapping.org/speedtest/
>
> There's probably a lot more to update this list about, and I'll
> leave it to Gar to do so.   There is a good amount of work being
> planned for the coming months, through 2015.   As the State proceeds,
> I'd like to encourage some participation, productive comments and related
> efforts by 1st-Mile subscribers.  Productive is the key word.
>
> Simply being critical of process or outcomes is to easy, even though
> there may be vital issues to be critical of.   The challenge before us
> is to move our state, communities, companies, institutions and residents
> forward, and not just to be playing 'catch-up'.  This list should be one place
> where we can influence the State's process at a high level.
> Not an easy task, but I for one hope we can do so.
>
> Richard
>
>
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> 1st-Mile Institute, 505-603-5200
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