[1st-mile-nm] NM Broadband Task Force
John Brown
john at citylinkfiber.com
Mon Apr 13 12:10:40 PDT 2015
Agree. We need to first make this data set more accurate and correct.
>From there we (as in we the people) can make better recommendations
and decisions on next steps for broadband deployment
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com> wrote:
>> I’ll explain the process which is rather impressive from an analytical
>> perspective. The PRC Task Force will be utilizing this and other products
>> from the NMBBP in the development of their recommendations.
>
>
> I'm very interested to hear what the process is, and how providers can get
> information to you to be included on the map. The point that the maps are
> not that great has been beaten to death, so how do the providers (that are
> willing to) help get them fixed?
>
> -Michael
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:10 AM, John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com> wrote:
>>
>> and yet, as mentioned by others, the data collected via this process
>> is in error, not accurate, not verified. And as such useless to base
>> important decisions on..
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Clarke, George, DoIT
>> <george.clarke at state.nm.us> wrote:
>> > BROADBANNONUTS:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am appreciative that there are those on the list who have run an ISP,
>> > know
>> > a payroll, and have sleuthed through a 941. However, broadband
>> > implementation is more than a construction project. The planning,
>> > design,
>> > funding, and development requires a large number of talents and “wants”
>> > a
>> > collaborative framework. Of importance is Digital Literacy or Broadband
>> > Education\Training that can be morphed into a “Marketing” element to any
>> > ISP’s Business Model. The New Mexico Broadband Program (NMBBP) has
>> > identified that establishing “relevancy” that targets the consumer’s
>> > “community” (health, senior, education, tribal, e-commerce,
>> > e-governance,
>> > etc.) and identifying specific applications increases use.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The NMBBP has established a site for these types of activities that we
>> > hope
>> > to “sustain” and provide to you 941ers, the public, government, and
>> > other
>> > businesses as an instrument to direct your customers and/or potential
>> > customers to an environment that can establish that “relevancy”.
>> > We’ve
>> > not formally launched this site, yet maybe this is that. Please click
>> > and
>> > go to:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - CONNECT NEW MEXICO: http://nmconnect.org/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > NMBBP Mapping: Back some weeks there was some chatter about the New
>> > Mexico
>> > Broadband Map. We’ve been a bit busy as are funding ended late January,
>> > we
>> > had hopes for legislation to continue, and now are scrambling to sustain
>> > a
>> > program that has had widespread support due to the “relevancy” of our
>> > work.
>> > Final close out is at the end of April. Regardless, I’ll be responding
>> > to
>> > what’s behind the making of the NM Map. For now simple to say that that
>> > map
>> > is the best there is in the Universe for New Mexico. The data presented
>> > are
>> > only as good as what we get from the provider. Of note, some of the
>> > providers refused to play. So, they are not on the map. I’ll explain
>> > the
>> > process which is rather impressive from an analytical perspective. The
>> > PRC
>> > Task Force will be utilizing this and other products from the NMBBP in
>> > the
>> > development of their recommendations.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Now of note, I do have one out of three. I’ve run a business and a
>> > payroll……Be well, Gar Clarke
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gar Clarke
>> >
>> > NM Geospatial and Broadband Program Manager
>> >
>> > Agency Tribal Liaison
>> >
>> > Department of Information Technology
>> >
>> > Simms Building
>> >
>> > 715 Alta Vista Street
>> >
>> > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
>> >
>> > Email: george.clarke at state.nm.us
>> >
>> > Desk: 505.827-1663
>> >
>> > Cell: 505.690-1661
>> >
>> > Fax: 505.827-2325
>> >
>> > Web: http://www.doit.state.nm.us/
>> >
>> > Broadband Web:: http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/
>> >
>> > GAC Web: http://www.gac.state.nm.us
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Steven Grabiel
>> > <sgrabiel at higherspeed.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Other than John Brown and John Badal
>> >
>> > Who else on this list has ever run an isp or even knows what a payroll
>> > is
>> > and what a 941 is? Who on this list knows anything about routing a
>> > packet?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Will bureaucrats be receiving advice from someone who has never dangled
>> > from a tower or does not know how to terminate category 6 cable, or
>> > someone
>> > who can not interpret a p&l or balance sheet? People who are actually
>> > doing
>> > something should be the people solicited for ideas/advice.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This is how atlas shrugged.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steven Grabiel
>> >
>> > President
>> >
>> > Higher Speed Internet
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original message --------
>> >
>> > From: Nan Rubin
>> >
>> > Date:04/11/2015 3:01 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> >
>> > To: Brian Tagaban
>> >
>> > Cc: John Badal , 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>,
>> > gillsorg at gmail.com, Wayne Hancock , Ned
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] NM Broadband Task Force
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: Paul White's profile photo]
>> > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/115777986003453195195?prsrc=4>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks – I’m REALLY glad to have some support for this!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Here’s the story – it looks like the PRC is trying to get some broadband
>> > recommendations (including possible $$ allocations) in place before the
>> > start of the new fiscal year, July 1. So this BB task force is on a
>> > fast
>> > track – recommendations ready by the end of May.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I’m attaching the list of members – yes, nearly all industry folks –
>> > seems
>> > like anyone who sent in a letter. But since I described myself as
>> > working
>> > on media policy with grassroots and community groups, I’ll feel free to
>> > be
>> > outspoken on behalf of this constituency.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The TF is operating under the authority of the PRC. The Steering
>> > Committee
>> > was named by the PRC to oversee and coordinate the work of the TF.
>> > Typical
>> > bureaucratic structure.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The mission of the TF is: “to be responsible for developing a
>> > recommended
>> > action plan ("Action Plan") that will include the following:
>> >
>> > A. The minimum upload and download broadband speeds that should
>> > be
>> > made available either across the State or, if deemed appropriate by the
>> > Task Force, in each area
>> >
>> > of the State;
>> >
>> > B. A map showing: (i) the areas of the State that currently have
>> > available broadband service with at least the minimum upload and
>> > download
>> > speeds determined by the Task Force, and the type of technology used to
>> > provide such Internet service, such as DSL, cable or fixed wireless; and
>> > (ii) the areas of the State that currently do not have broadband service
>> > with at least the minimum upload and download speeds determine by the
>> > Task
>> > Force; and (iii) the areas of the State that do not have any broadband
>> > services at all.
>> >
>> > C. A description of any barriers under existing law that prevent
>> > or
>> > impede the deployment of broadband service in the State.
>> >
>> > D. The identification of possible funding sources that can be
>> > used
>> > to increase the deployment of broadband services in the State. If the
>> > Task
>> > Force proposes using the State Rural Universal Service Fund ("USF") as
>> > one
>> > of the funding sources, the proposal shall not include changing the
>> > existing cap on the USF surcharge.
>> >
>> > E. The specific Commission actions and possible legislation that
>> > should be taken or enacted to ensure the rapid deployment across the
>> > State
>> > of broadband services that meets the minimum speeds recommended by the
>> > Task
>> > Force.”
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The first TF meeting was this past Thursday in Santa Fe, me and several
>> > others on the phone with intros and several background presentations.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I was impressed that a fair amount of work seems to have been done
>> > already
>> > on these topics, especially looking at rural models already in place in
>> > other states, and broadband mapping done here in NM. (though I might
>> > have
>> > been misled, since I wasn’t able to see the presentations.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/#map
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > based on the 5 items listed above, they set up 3 subcommittees:
>> >
>> > Mapping
>> >
>> > Funding (including using the New Mexico Universal Service
>> > Fund)
>> >
>> > Public policy – I’m on this one.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > My initial impression is that the focus will actually be on reaching
>> > unserved areas; raising access speeds; and sustainability for systems
>> > once
>> > they are built out (this is a biggy.) Since I’m on the Policy Committee,
>> > I’ll make sure the ROW issue is properly researched and included for
>> > recommendations. (“Obstacles” is already a category!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I will probably also raise the issue of urging the PRC take a position
>> > supporting municipal broadband, which was part of the same FCC decision.
>> > If any local municipality in NM should want to run its own system, the
>> > PRC
>> > should make it easy for them instead of deferring to the corporate
>> > providers.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I’ll know more on Monday when I call in to the first Policy committee
>> > meeting. Meanwhile, I’ve asked them to send me copies of all the
>> > background materials, and am attaching the list of TF members.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Stay tuned,
>> >
>> > Nan
>> >
>> > *Nan Rubin*
>> > *Community Media Services*
>> > 917-656-0886 [*Rocky Mountain Time Zone!!!]*
>> > 4093 Calle de Estrellas
>> > Las Cruces, NM 88012
>> > www.nanrubin.net
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Brian Tagaban <Brian at tagaban.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Digging is a one-time cost. Rights-of-way agreements are reoccurring
>> >> subject to local and diverse ordinances/rules which makes ROW a
>> >> substantial
>> >> project risk. Some areas are subject to minimal permitting
>> >> requirements
>> >> but when the Feds deem one as being under federal protection then the
>> >> complexity for ROW grows exponentially due to the sequential and
>> >> dependency
>> >> nature of the agreements. Federal and State roads are not exempt from
>> >> the
>> >> complexity of ROW therefore combining the two ROWs is an excellent idea
>> >> in
>> >> my opinion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Brian Tagaban
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* 1st-mile-nm [mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org] *On
>> >> Behalf Of *frank at wmxsystems.com
>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:55 PM
>> >> *To:* John Badal; John Brown; Wayne Hancock
>> >>
>> >> *Cc:* Quijada, Andrea; Lynn Chadwick; Cheryl Leanza; 1st-Mile-NM;
>> >> gillsorg at gmail.com; Ned
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] NM Broadband Task Force
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Digging is 90% of the cost of a fiber deployment.
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] NM Broadband Task Force
>> >> From: John Badal <JBadal at sacred-wind.com>
>> >> Date: Wed, April 08, 2015 1:50 pm
>> >> To: John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>, Wayne Hancock
>> >> <whancock at donaanacounty.org>
>> >> Cc: "Quijada, Andrea" <andrea at medialiteracyproject.org>, Lynn Chadwick
>> >> <lchadwick at ntia.doc.gov>, Cheryl Leanza <cleanza at alhmail.com>,
>> >> 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>, "gillsorg at gmail.com"
>> >> <gillsorg at gmail.com>, Ned <erubin47 at comcast.net>
>> >>
>> >> Actually, that’s a good idea. Obtaining rights of way is a time
>> >> consuming
>> >> and costly chore for telcos and much money and multiple easemtn
>> >> excavations
>> >> could be avoided if the local, state or federal government would
>> >> install
>> >> conduit as they upgrade their rights of way. Congresswoman Eshoo of
>> >> California has introduced a bill for several years running that would
>> >> require the US DOT to install fiber ducts in all federal Hwy rights of
>> >> way
>> >> for use by any fiber provider.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* 1st-mile-nm [*mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org*
>> >> <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>] *On Behalf Of *John Brown
>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:17 PM
>> >> *To:* Wayne Hancock
>> >> *Cc:* Quijada, Andrea; Lynn Chadwick; Cheryl Leanza; 1st-Mile-NM;
>> >> *gillsorg at gmail.com* <gillsorg at gmail.com>; Ned
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] NM Broadband Task Force
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> what exactly will that achieve ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Wayne Hancock <
>> >> *whancock at donaanacounty.org* <whancock at donaanacounty.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That’s Great!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As a recommendation, it would be helpful if Counties were encouraged to
>> >> include a provision within their permitting processes for trenching,
>> >> that
>> >> “Fiber Duct will be placed and marked in all trenches on Public Rights
>> >> of
>> >> Way” .
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good Luck
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wayne D. Hancock
>> >>
>> >> Dona Ana County
>> >>
>> >> Commissioner District 4
>> >>
>> >> 845 N. Motel Blvd.
>> >>
>> >> Las Cruces, NM 88007
>> >>
>> >> 575 525-5810 Office
>> >>
>> >> 575 520-4560 Cell
>> >>
>> >> 575 525-5948 Fax
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [image: DAC_logo_small]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* Nan Rubin [mailto:*nanrubin at gmail.com* <nanrubin at gmail.com>]
>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2015 1:12 PM
>> >> *To:* 1st-Mile-NM
>> >> *Cc:* Wayne Hancock; Cheryl Leanza; Lynn Chadwick; Quijada, Andrea;
>> >> Ned;
>> >> *gillsorg at gmail.com* <gillsorg at gmail.com>
>> >> *Subject:* NM Broadband Task Force
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As you know, the NM Public Regulation Commission just set up a
>> >> Broadband
>> >> Task Force to look into how to improve BB service around the state,
>> >> especially increasing speeds where there is BB, and bringing it to
>> >> parts
>> >> of
>> >
>> >
>> >
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