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I wont bother to punt ( pun ) at the problems which are obvious but is
the commenter saying GIGABYTE or gigibit<br>
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It did remind me of a metaphor we used long ago in Leapfrog " Carroll
is old enough to remember that " called the French fry question and the
Trust issue<br>
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Extract here for a full translation
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<p><small><i>The next component that you add to make CONNECTIVITY work
is TRUST. </i></small></p>
<p><small><i>Those of you who stopped at McDonalds this morning trusted
that you could get breakfast including coffee for about $4. That’s how
McDonalds makes money: anticipating customers’ needs and meeting them.
What would you do if one morning the same McDonalds offered you a
single French fry for $10 and when you complained they haggled the
price down to $7.50? I know this sounds silly but bear with me. You
would think that they had gone nuts! And you would be right. Trust
would have broken down and you would go elsewhere for your breakfast. </i></small></p>
<p><small><i>This is what has happened in the connectivity market. The
basic infrastructure vendors, whom you trusted to anticipate your most
basic business need (CONNECTIVITY), are now in haggle mode. They are
focused on how many French fries you want instead of looking for the
right price and quality of your breakfast. This is what US West and
their partner in crime, AT&T, are doing with connectivity. </i></small></p>
<p><small><i>One thing I hear all the time is “How much connectivity do
you really need?” I call this “the French fry question.” 1 megabit (1
fry)? 10 megabit (fries)? How much are you prepared to pay? Or even
worse with DSL/ISDN, “How much of a French fry do you want?” People
keep trying to set a ceiling on an unknown need and then work
backwards. If you stick a “this is a large box of French fries” label
on one French fry, what do you have? Still one French fry! If you stick
a Ferrari label on a tortoise you do not get a faster, or more
valuable, tortoise.</i>
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A bigger question would also be " who in the heck would trust warner or
any cable or telco to measure anything when its linked to billing "<br>
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John Brown wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hmm, so TWC sets up some pretty large PNG/JPG images on their various
websites (on net hosted) and watches the meter crank up.
Seriously, does this apply to those bytes xfered from TWC internal
servers ??
Does it apply to all protocols, or just web (port 80 / 443, the like)???
So if a THIRD-PARTY, non-TWC customer, mail-bombs a bunch of TWC
accounts with 10MB file attachments, does that count against your
quota??? If so, what right of self-action does the customer have to
force TWC to provide detailed technical information so that the customer
can recover from the third-party abuser, or at least attempt to...
The problem with quota's is that you have to define what you are
measuring and limiting. TO broad a description and you have problems
like those above....
Whats the real issue here?? Is it that high bandwidth providers are
watching their transit get used up and thus impacting QOS for the client
base?? Is that bandwidth consumption limited to specific types of
applications ? (p2p, bit-torrent, etc)
There are practical considerations, and limits that all providers face.
Question to the readership:
How do you propose a provider protect the overall health of their
network against those that "abuse".
Its like the person that goes to the Vegas Buffet and eats and eats and
eats. There is a point where the provider looses money. What do they do?
Carroll Cagle wrote:
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From: Good Morning Silicon Valley
San Jose Mercury News
June 3, 2008
The meter's running
By LEVI SUMAGAYSAY <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lsumagaysay@bayareanewsgroup.com"><mailto:lsumagaysay@bayareanewsgroup.com></a>
Raise your hands if you want to sign up for Time Warner Cable's trial of
metered Internet use. Anybody? Starting Thursday, Time Warner customers in
Beaumont, Texas, will have to pay $1 per gigabyte if they
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_9456427"><http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_9456427></a> go over their monthly
allowance for uploads and downloads. A company executive said the monthly
caps will range from 5 GB to 40 GB. How bad of an idea is this? Let me count
the ways. It's like rationing food, water, air. Like telling us we can only
have one plateful at a Las Vegas buffet. As TechCrunch says, Time Warner's
going
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/"><http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-mete
red-bandwidth-testing/></a> medieval. Says GigaOm: Is
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/"><http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fear
s/></a> Time Warner Cable crazy? For some of us, this is akin to trying to
figure out how many minutes of the 500 we're allotted each month we've used
up on our cell phones. It's possible to find out, but it's too much trouble.
Imagine having to tiptoe around the Internet, trying to remember how much of
your allowance you've used so far, and struggling to decide whether you
should read this, download that or upload those photos. You'd think
companies such as Apple would be up in arms over this. With these caps,
iTunes users would have to limit how many songs, videos or movies they buy
each month. (Or those songs could cost way more than 99 cents each.) And the
timing's just ridiculous, as many of the cool things you can now do on the
Internet -- watch movies on Netflix, laugh at silly videos on YouTube,
listen to customized radio stations on Pandora -- require more and more
bandwidth. Some think the experiment will fail.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/why_time_warner_cables_pay_per_use_internet_experiment_will_fail"><http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/why_time_warner_cables_pay_per_use_inter
net_experiment_will_fail></a> Let's hope some good old healthy competition
discourages other cable or telephone companies from conducting their own
experiments, although Comcast, the nation's largest cable company, has said
it's considering usage caps <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.siliconvalley.com/ci_9183822"><http://www.siliconvalley.com/ci_9183822></a> as
well. The 250 gigabyte limit Comcast is mulling seems much more reasonable.
That is, if you're into restrictions. But isn't this America? Me, I don't
want no stinking limits.
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