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Then again Qwest seems quite capable of screwing this up anyway
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Qwest-Denies-Using-FTTN-Glitch-To-Kill-CLECs-99752">http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Qwest-Denies-Using-FTTN-Glitch-To-Kill-CLECs-99752</a><br>
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Note how they are using this to cut out the independent ISPs as per
Johns statement, yes it sucks, but whats new about that with Qwest<br>
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Thanks John ADSL2 upstream is 112 Kbytes WOW<br>
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What other industry in the world would get away with charging full
price for there BEST ( Ho Ho ) effort and doubling the cost to another
group of customers for partial service<br>
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Then again if you want to trust all your money and information to an
adsl router and you remember that crap that went on with Alcatel and
Cisco several years back watch this video
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKv7YfB9Hvs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKv7YfB9Hvs</a><br>
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John Osmon wrote:
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 05:58:45PM -0700, peter wrote:
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<pre wrap="">First 20 mps is really 2.5 megabyte and typically upstream is about 10 -
15% of the downstream speed
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Huh? It's ADSL2+. Upstream will be maxed out at 896kbps, and
downstream will be of several speeds, up to 20 Mbps.
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<pre wrap="">From my sources in Denver the service is a joke and rarely gets the
10mps or 1.25 megabyte range and service swings are huge ( they are
using Bandwidth monitor pro )
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I'm not seeing that with the folks in ABQ that have the service. They
get advertised speeds to downtown -- the only drawback is the 20 - 30 ms
of latency inherent in ADSL using DMT signaling.
>From servers in downtown ABQ, I've seen folks streaming 3 or 4
simultaneous media streams, while using SSH and VOIP. Not too shabby.
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<pre wrap="">As Qwest no longer will agree to SLA agreement or data on its broadband
connection service the difference in business and residential rates is
criminal
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I don't recall any SLAs on DSL at any time. It's always been a "best
effort" type of system. (Like packet delivery on the Inernet. :-)
The only drawback I see with the new Qwest offerings is that they
are using this time to block out their ISP partners. You get to
use Qwest as the ISP, or forego the faster speeds.
See my previous posts for my thoughts on having your layer 3 provider
locked in because of your layer 1/2 choice. (Hint - I think it
sucks...)
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