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<div>Several years ago the AZ legislature was considering a bill to ban the use of cellphones at the gas pump for fear of an electromagnetic ignition. I suggested to one person that the car engine's starter probably was an even greater risk and that everyone
might want to roll their car away from the pump before starting it. No one laughed.</div>
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<div>From: Steve Cimelli </div>
<div>Date:01/12/2015 5:08 AM (GMT+01:00) </div>
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<div>Cc: Christopher Mitchell ,Tom Johnson ,1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm@mailman.dcn.org>
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<div>Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] The Town Without Wi-Fi | People & Politics | Washingtonian
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<div>Interesting comment Steve on the microwave oven. Several years ago we had a clamp break inside a microwave.
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<div class="">The technician who came to fix it tested it for microwave leakage before and after the fix. I was standing there as he</div>
<div class="">brought out his testing device. He first wanted to show me the background emissions from the sun, so he unplugged </div>
<div class="">the oven and turned on the device. It registered a small reading. He said ‘follow me’ and walked to the window. The</div>
<div class="">reading went up. He explained that the sun, unshielded fusion reactor that it was hurled energy all over the electromagnetic</div>
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<div class="">On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Steve Ross <<a href="mailto:editorsteve@gmail.com" class="">editorsteve@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Remember how the NYT did a front page story on the Obama stimulus program in 2009 as it was being considered in Congress? The story zoomed in on the broadband package, 1% of the total program, as s "cyberbridge to nowhere." The NYT stenographer
(he called himself a reporter) said he had come up with the phrase himself. Right. Just a few days earlier PR for a major cable company had used the phrase on me. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I just saw a similar article on Ars -
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<p dir="ltr" class="">And yet, almost all the double-blind challenge tests, where you randomly subject electrosensitive people to signals, turn out negative. I know of a half-dozen mildly positive studies, only two of which could be replicated by the researchers,
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It is always possible that some people are sensitive to some wavelengths, but everything from fluorescent ballasts at 3600 Hz to wifi at 2.4 or 5.2 GHz or cellular at 1.9 GHz? Yes, there are harmonics, but signal strength gets so low so fast...
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<p dir="ltr" class="">And so many activists complain about cellular or wifi yet have microwave oven and cordless phones emitting similar frequency.
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