[env-trinity] Eureka Times Standard - 8/2/07
Tom_A_Shaw at fws.gov
Tom_A_Shaw at fws.gov
Tue Aug 7 14:34:26 PDT 2007
Please refer to the following two reports.
tom
http://www.fws.gov/arcata/fisheries/reports/technical/Klamath_River_Dieoff_Mortality_Report_AFWO_01_03.pdf
http://www.pcffa.org/KlamFishKillFactorsDFGReport.pdf
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Tom,
I think that was part of the rationale used in the CDFG report when they
came up with their estimate.
GG
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Subject: Re: [env-trinity] Eureka Times Standard - 8/2/07
All I know about the 2002 Kill-Off (Die-off + Fish Kill) is that for the
first time since they've been monitoring spring and fall chinook runs on
the Trinity River, the spring chinook outnumbered the fall chinook by a
factor of about 2/1. Normally, the fall chinook outnumber the spring
chinook by 2/1.
We had roughly 18,000 fall chinook adults return to the Trinity River in
2002. There were roughly 36,000 spring chinook. If one assumes that the
2/1 ratio is reversed due to the Kill-Off, then we lost 54,000 adult fall
chinook from the Trinity River alone.
If there were 36,000 springers, then there should have been approximately
72,000 fall chinook.
If you subtract 18,000 from 72,000, you get 54,000 missing fall chinook
adults from the Trinity River.
So anyway, I don't think that 80,000 fish lost in 2002 is unrealistic. Of
course, nobody will know because of carcasses floating away, rotting, being
eaten, etc.
Respectfully submitted,
Tom Stokely
Principal Planner
Trinity Co. Planning/Natural Resources
PO Box 2819
60 Glen Rd.
Weaverville, CA 96093-2819
530-623-1351, Press 2-2-1
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tstokely at trinityalps.net or tstokely at trinitycounty.org
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Craig et al.
Unless I am becoming senile I think you have that backward. As the author
of the FWS report back then we initially estimated the 33K
Excerpt from Guillen, G. 2003. Klamath River Fish Die-off, Spetember 2002,
Mortality Report, FWS. AFWO-01-03
34,056 total dead fish
33,527 salmonids, 97.1% fall run Chinook.
CDFG effectively bumped it up later in their reported saying their
analysis provided evidence that could double the original estimate i.e.
68K. Don't know where the latest 80K came from.
GG
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Subject: Re: [env-trinity] Eureka Times Standard - 8/2/07
It was the USFWS final report that increased the number from CA Fish and
Game's early estimate of 35,000 to 68,000. Thus the inflation began.
S. Craig Tucker, Ph.D.
Klamath Campaign Coordinator
Karuk Tribe of California
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The only downside I see to articles like this is that seemingly every time
I read one, the number of dead salmon increases. I realize that sometimes
it's the press, updated estimates, rounding numbers, etc. but
inconsistencies that start at 35,000 and go up to (most recently) 80,000
don't bode well for the science behind all of this. If the estimates have
been recalculated and are reasonably solid, it would be good to see that
kind of information in print. Not that I don't think this was a horrific
deed - it most certainly was - but pretty soon it'll be up to 100,000 dead
salmon, and credibility will be in question.
Jay Glase
Great Lakes Area Fishery Biologist
National Park Service
800 E Lakeshore Dr
Houghton, MI 49931
906-487-7167
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Thompson decries VP's Klamath interference
Eureka Times Standard - 8/2/07
After new evidence was revealed during a House Natural Resources Committee
hearing on whether government officials manipulated science in order to
divert water from the Klamath River, North Coast Rep. Mike Thompson issued
a statement blasting that abuse of the process.
"(Tuesday's) hearing is clear evidence that the scientific process behind
the water diversion was purposely manipulated by government officials,"
said Thompson. "Sidestepping this process led to an illegal water plan
that
contributed to the largest adult salmon kill in the West."
The Department of Commerce's inspector general testified that department
officials bypassed key oversight mechanisms when creating a biological
opinion on how a water diversion would affect endangered fish in the
Klamath.
The final biological opinion, which was later found in violation of the
Endangered Species Act, contributed to the deaths of roughly 80,000
spawning salmon.
The hearing was held by the House Natural Resources Committee in response
to a request made by Thompson and 35 of his Democratic colleagues from
California and Oregon.
They called for the hearing because of the reported pressure Vice
President
Dick Cheney placed upon the Department of Interior to, as the Washington
Post stated in its June investigative report, "prioritize economic
interests over protected fish."
The Post reported that the vice president called for water to be diverted
from the Klamath River Basin to farms in Oregon in order to secure the
farmers' votes.
Cheney declined to testify at the hearing.
"The history of political strong-arming in the Klamath is despicable,"
said
Thompson. "Fortunately, a silver lining has begun to form. Stakeholders in
the Klamath River Basin are working together on a plan to recover the fish
and help the farmers who need water for their land.
"I believe there is room for both the fishers and the farmers, but we must
ensure the government's future involvement is transparent and honest,"
Thompson said. "To that end, I am committed to continuing this
investigation and improving the oversight process."
Byron Leydecker
Friends of Trinity River, Chair
California Trout, Inc., Advisor
PO Box 2327
Mill Valley, CA 94942-2327
415 383 4810
415 519 4810 cell
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