[env-trinity] What are they Spraying us with?
bhill at igc.org
Wed Apr 14 07:40:38 PDT 2010
Thanks Dane for your comments. Hopefully by airing this issue on a
list-serv which has many qualified participants enough documentation will be
brought forth for us to arrive at a consensual understanding so that as a
well informed public we can then inform the press and petition our
governmental representatives to legislate changes that will improve existing
From: Dane Wigington [mailto:danew at frontier.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:30 AM
To: bhill at igc.org
Cc: Michael Murphy; BHolt at usbr.gov
Subject: Re: [env-trinity] What are they Spraying us with?
I appreciate that you took the time to begin looking at this most important
issue. I would like to address some of the comments made by Mr. Holt.
First, Mr. Holt mentions aluminum mobilization due to acid rain. This has no
connection whatsoever to our problem here. Our rain is literally packed with
aluminum as dozens of lab tests have already proven. Not only is our rain
NOT very acidic, it is about 10 times plus more alkaline than it should be
or has historically been (from 5.6 previously - to 6.8 today). The levels of
aluminum in our rain has in some cases escalated as much as 50,000 percent
in the last five years, 50,000%. I have personally spoken to a
geohydrologist that stated clearly there should not be anything over .05 ppb
of aluminum in precipitation even in most urban areas. We have had single
rain events as high as 3450 ppb. That makes this particular test amount
69,000 times higher than what would otherwise be an expected high.
Mr. Holt says a half dozen "contrails" that remain in the sky are normal
over the area. He does not mention that often there are trails going from
east to west. First, my background is in solar power. I worked on one of the
first commercial solar power facilities in the continental US in the early
80s and my home was the cover article for the worlds largest RE magazine.
Whatever is coming out of the jets began to cause radically more "solar
obscuration" starting about 5 years ago. On many days I literally lose 50%
or more of my solar uptake from whatever the jets are putting out. This was
never the case for the first years I lived in Shasta County from 01 to 04.
Second, flight paths and frequency was checked for the skies over our area.
There should only be an average of one aircraft every ten minutes or so and
NO east west at all. Mr. Buford does not mention that many of the aircraft
that appear to be "spraying" have a trail that is totally different in
composition from one side of the aircraft when compared to the other. Mr.
Buford had apparently not investigated the numerous "geoengineering" patents
that describe exactly the scenario we see in our skies and the first
elements called out as materials in these patents are exactly what has begun
showing up on the ground.
Mr. Holt mentions the western part of Shasta Lake, all tests near Shasta
lake were taken completely on the far east side of the lake far away from
any former mining operations. Snow tests from the side of Mt. Shasta, far
away from Lake Shasta mining, were as high as 61,000 ppb. Other tests have
been taken across the US and in Europe. The results are the same.
Next, ground water sources have shown NO contamination. The contamination is
from the air and has not yet entered the ground water system.
Finally, regarding soil Ph. I know for a fact that the comparisons are not
guesswork. I have held in my hands the original soils Ph study done by the
USDA in the 60s that gave very defined Phs for literally every soil type in
all of Shasta County. It is a very expensive manual containing 136 fold out
maps logging every bit of land in the county. The soil PH has changed
radically in only the last five years. I have been with USDA soils
scientists that tested Ph where they estimated it should have been about
5.5. It was near 7 in one location and well over in another. The Ph results
that should have been are confirmed in the USDA manual mentioned.
I mean no disrespect to Mr. Holt. I believe he sincerely replied to you
inquiry and I would welcome any opportunity to present lab test results and
other data to Mr. Holt. One thing I just can't bring myself to understand is
why this issue sounds so preposterous to people. Everything described is
exactly what all recognized "geoengineers" are urgently pushing. Nearly
every major scientific publication has outlined the scenario we see in our
skies as proposed programs. Yet, those who present the evidence that these
programs are already underway are written off as "nuts". I personally
attended the AAAS international conference on this subject and heard the
geoengineering panel with my own ears as they pressed for the immediate
deployment of aircraft to deploy 20,000,000 tones of aluminum into the
atmosphere. I then heard them admit that virtually NO study has been done
whatsoever as to the fall out from such programs.
Brian, I most sincerely hope that you and Mr. Holt will continue your
investigation into this most dire issue.
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Michael Murphy wrote:
This is in respone to one of my articles
From: bhill at igc.org
To: BHolt at usbr.gov
CC: bioguy0311 at sbcglobal.net; whtagft at hotmail.com; tstokely at att.net
Subject: RE: [env-trinity] What are they Spraying us with?
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:37:41 -0700
Thanks Buford - It seems to me that there is more involved than what we used
to call jet streams. Lets see what others say. I'll try to forward the
comments to the author of the article and people mentioned in it.
From: Holt, Buford R [mailto:BHolt at usbr.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:51 PM
To: Brian Hill
Subject: RE: [env-trinity] What are they Spraying us with?
I certainly can't give you definitive responses, but I can comment on
aspects of what you sent. I'm not sure if any of my thoughts will help
much, but they are interspersed in the following narrative and at least on
my screen show up in blue.
What Are They Spraying Us With? - Pt II
Could Aluminum, Barium and Other Substances From Stratospheric Aerosol
Geo-Engineering Programs be Destroying Eco-Systems around the World?
By Michael J. Murphy
What would you do if you were told that toxic substances being sprayed into
the sky are falling to the ground and decimating eco-systems around the
world? This very claim, made by concerned citizens outside the American
Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) meeting last month in San
Diego, sparked my interest to investigate further.
The AAAS meeting hosted several top geo-engineering scientists who gathered
to discuss the "plausibility" of implementing various geo-engineering
programs throughout the world. One of the options addressed was the
stratospheric aerosol geo-engineering (SAG) , AKA chemtrail program, where
scientists discussed the "plausibility" of spraying aerosol aluminum, barium
and other particles into the sky to block the sun as a means to "reduce" the
Earth's temperature. When asked specifically about the potential risks
associated with using aluminum in the program as an aerosol, scientists
replied by stating that they have not studied much about the risks
associated with aluminum and added that something terrible could be found
tomorrow that they haven't looked at. When probed further about the
deployment of existing aerosol programs, the scientists stated that no
aerosol spraying programs have been deployed to date.
It is worth noting that Al mobilization in soils was given a fair amount of
attention in the 70's in association with the acid rain concerns prominent
at the time. To the extent that acidity affects Al in soils, you might find
the literature re mining districts like Copper Hill, Tennessee; Trail,
British Columbia; and Sudbury , Ontario useful, as well as the work
published by the EPA and others re acid rain in the Adirondacks. There is
also a lot of older stuff from the Nordic lands, particularly Sweden, which
were downwind of the factories of Great Britain and had acid soils to begin
with, given the predominance of conifer and heath cover in those countries.
There is also fascinating material on the genetic differentiation of straits
of wind pollinated grasses on old mine heaps in Wales, but I am sorrow I
can't recall the investigator's name after a 30 years lapse outside academe.
The concerned citizens I met outside the meeting were claiming quite the
opposite. They came in protest after witnessing airplanes that they believe
are regularly spraying aerosols into the upper-part of the sky. Many from
this group have tested and found extremely high levels of aluminum, barium
and other substances in their soil, rain, water and snow. Ironically, the
substances that they reported finding are the same substances the scientists
are "considering" implementing in the various aerosol spraying programs
discussed at the meeting. They also believe that these substances are
leading to the destruction of eco-systems and are coming from already
deployed SAG programs. Due to the severity of this issue and my desire to
know the truth, I was led to Shasta County in the Northern part of
California to investigate not only the claims of what is being reported in
the sky, but also claims of what is in the rain, water, snow and soil from
what many residents are saying is the result of SAG programs.
I can verify that one often sees six to eight contrails in the sky over
Redding on days when contrails form, but they seem readily explicable as
being contrails of conventional aircraft flying between SFO and
The first stop on this trip led me to Dane Wigington's beautiful 2000 acre
property overlooking Lake Shasta. As we toured his breath-taking land, he
pointed to multiple trails that blanketed the sky. He claimed the trails
are present on most days above Northern California. Wigington referred to
this as a "moderate spraying day". Like many other residents in Shasta
County, Wigington moved to the area to get away from the heavy pollution of
Southern California that he grew up with as a child. His dreams of living
off the land and becoming one with nature are now coming to a grinding halt
as he is focusing his time and energy on the issue of geo-engineering.
Wigington became concerned about SAG when he began to notice dramatic
changes in the solar power that he uses to supply his home and property.
Owner of one of the largest residential solar systems in Northern
California, he began to notice very high declines in solar power. It can be
decreased by as much as 60 percent on what he calls "heavy spraying days".
Wigington said, "The trails are literally blocking the sun". He also went
on to say that he regularly samples the fine dust layers on top of his solar
panels and other outdoor surface areas and frequently finds very high levels
of aluminum and barium. Wigington believes that these are a product of SAG
At the same time as finding decreased solar power, Wigington also began to
witness dramatic changes on his property as the trees, grass, insects and
wildlife started dying. This led him to get his first rain test just four
years ago. The results were shocking as they found aluminum levels at 7
ug/l or 7 parts per billion. Although aluminum can be found around the
world in smaller quantities, geo-hydrologists told him that this number was
quite high. Since that time, he has had aluminum tests escalate as high as
50,000 percent to 3,400ug/l. That is literally toxic rain. These results
prompted him to get additional pH tests from two USDA soil scientists which
yielded more shocking results. The pH of the soil was 6.6 in one area and
7.4 in another. This is over 11 times the normal alkalinity of the soil
which should be in the range of 5.0 to 5.5. It is important to note the
tests were taken in the forest far removed from any highway or industry.
It is worth keeping in mind that the western part of the Shasta Lake area is
an old mining district whose air pollution led to the nation's first air
pollution laws when fruit trees started dying south of Redding. So there is
surely a lot heavy metal contamination associated with those old copper
mines and smelters. The Iron Mountain Mine alone contributed tons of Cu,
Cd, and Zn per day to the Sacramento River prior to development of
mitigation measures and the soils around the Spring Creek Reservoir are
excessive high in As.
When asked what these changes can do to the ecosystem, Wigington replied by
saying that it is devastating. He went on to say, "if this continues, we
can only expect to see things get much worse. Not only are we seeing our
trees dying here, but also a major decline in our wildlife and fish". As a
matter of fact, Wigington stated that according to The National Oceanic
Atmospheric Administration, the salmon run, once seen in abundance in this
area has declined from 769,868 in 2002 to 39,530 in 2009. That is over a 90
percent decline. Amazingly enough, this decline started occurring about the
same period of time when residents began to see a dramatic increase in what
they believe to be SAG programs. Wigington's efforts to get these issues
and test results addressed has been largely ignored by government agencies
Again, there are other sources of disturbance to weigh in this matter. The
dams certainly played a major role, mining has contributed, over-fishing,
water diversions, introductions of exotic species, etc. that is not to say
water chemistry is not a problem, only that it is one among many.
After a closer look at Wigington's property, my initial awe of the beauty
and breath taking views led to sadness, frustration and anger over the
contamination that is literally destroying the eco-system. This led me to
investigate further by seeking an expert in biology. I packed up the car
and headed north to the breathtaking town of Mt. Shasta. Mt. Shasta has
been known for its beauty, clean air and as being the source of water for
some bottled water companies. Many travel from around the world to mountain
climb and vacation in this beautiful part of Western America.
Francis Mangels, BS in Forestry, Masters in zoology and a retired soil
conservationist and wildlife biologist who worked for the U.S. Forest
Service for over thirty five years, welcomed me into his beautiful home in
the town of Mt. Shasta to discuss the "hidden" crisis that is occurring.
Mangels alerted me to the rapid decline of fish in the nearby rivers and
streams. Mangels brought me to a nearby creek that had an abundant supply
of fish just a few years ago. Because the primary diet of the fish in the
creek is aquatic insects, he performed a standard sample method to measure
the amount of insects present. The samples he had performed before the
alleged aerosol spraying campaign had yielded an average of 1000 aquatic
insects. Our sample yielded only 31. This is over a 96% decline from
samples taken just a few years ago. Mangels stated that because the fish
live off of the insects, they are literally starving. This rapid decline is
likely due to changes in the chemistry of the water. The only changes that
Mangels is aware of are the dramatic increases of aluminum, barium and
strontium which he believes is from SAG programs.
This is more interesting with respect to the chem.-trails claims that the
decline of the salmon since you are speaking here of fish above the dams.
We also took time to test the pH of nearby soil and snow which contained
over 10 times the alkalinity of the normal pH. Mangels has evidence that
this drastic change in pH is also due to the massive increases of aluminum.
He stated that forests, fields and farm ecologies thrive in acidic soils.
Aluminum acts as a buffer that increases alkalinity and can decimate
ecologies in large amounts. Mangels also pointed out that snow on Mt.
Shasta was tested and sent to theEnvironmental Protection Agency (E.P.A.)
who found results that contained 61,100 ug/l or parts per billion of
aluminum and 83 ug/l of barium. The normal amount of aluminum in the snow
at Mt. Shasta is 0.5 ug/l. Drinking water allowable is 50ug/l. That means
that the snow on Mt. Shasta has tested at 1200 times more poisonous than
water standards allow for aluminum. Mangels said, "Mountain climbers that
come from around the world are drinking the poisonous water from the snow on
the mountain". Mangels went on to say that government action is required
at just 1000 ug/l of detected aluminum. Although he alerted several
government agencies of these findings, no governmental action has been taken
It would be interesting to know what the metals levels are at depth in the
small glaciers still present on Mount Shasta. Certainly, the analyses of
glacial ice from the Greenland icecap have shown increasing levels of lead
correlated with the growth of human industry. It would be interesting to
see if a larger suite of metals have been measured. Certainly, it would
give you some background data, and should be relevant as volcanic emissions
and nuclear bomb test data have shown that materials can be well dispersed
global with a couple of years.
Mengels brought me to several other locations around the town of Mt. Shasta
where he tested the soil, rain, water and snow that also yielded tests that
revealed the pH to be over ten times the normal alkalinity. He went on to
say that these types of changes in soil, water and snow are very uncommon
except in other areas around the world where people have been witnessing
what many believe to be spraying from SAG programs. Mengels also stated
that these changes have produced an "ecological crisis" and will have
horrible consequences if continued. Mengels said, "Losses to our economy
will be incredible and are on their way as we speak. Tree growth will be
decreased which will result in the loss of logging jobs. It is also
causing the decline of naturally occurring plant and grassgrowth that occurs
in the normally acidic soils of grazing pastures, resulting in the demise of
our grazing industry, fishing industry, and worst of all, basic agriculture
in Northern California."
What is amazing is that these tests and many others throughout the world are
largely being ignored by the very governmental entities that are required to
address them. Some politicians, like Mt. Shasta City Council member Ed
Valenzuela may choose to ignore the issue. Valenzuela was made aware of the
mass contamination at a city council meeting where he stated that the city
did not want to sample the water for aluminum because the request was a "can
of worms" that would, "open a Pandora's box" that the city would have to pay
for. Although several local citizens volunteered to pay the $22.00 cost of
the test at an EPA lab, both Republican Committee Chairman Russ Porterfield,
and Valenzuela voted no to having the water tested. The mayor Stearns wanted
the test, but was overruled by a 3-2 vote. This response is not uncommon
as Mengels has presented this issue and his scientific data to over 15 local
and federal agencies including Senator Feinstein and Senator Boxer's office.
To date he has received no response or action.
Again, it is important to carefully consider the context. This is the
southern Cascades after all, heavy metals can be problems in groundwaters
apart from human action. I recall reading of arsenic problems in some of the
groundwaters in Oregon forty years ago where the aquifers were in basalts.
Is it a coincidence that the substances found in the rain, snow and soil in
this region and around the world match the exact substances that scientists
are "considering" implementing in various geo-engineering campaigns
throughout the world? If not, then why have agencies and officials largely
ignored these findings that are destroying our planet's eco-system? Could
it be that officials are fearful of exposing a massive cover-up of a
world-wide ecological crime? Or is it the belief that this issue is simply
too large and too complicated a problem for them to tackle? Whatever the
reason for this ignorance, we need to demand that our questions and shocking
test results get addressed not only in Shasta County, but in every part of
the world. Our future on this planet is dependent on this issue being
Because this movement has come under attack from those who appear to be
protecting the many political and corporate interests associated with SAG,
it is essential that all of us around the world get involved by testing the
rain, snow, soil and various outdoor surfaces and reporting the results to
our elected officials and local environmental agencies. We must also reach
out and educate all those involved with SAG who might be unaware of the
environmental implications associated with their programs. Testing for pH
changes and metals is simple and can be performed almost anywhere at a
Simple testing instructions and more information about geo-engineering
programs can be found on the internet at www.
<http://geoengineeringwatch.org>geoengineeringwatch.org. Biologist Francis
Mengels can be contacted by e-mail at
<mailto:bioguy0311 at sbcglobal.net>bioguy0311 at sbcglobal.net for more
information on this issue, the tests he has performed and suggestions on
testing procedures. Please take action by testing, reporting and demanding
answers on this ever so important issue. Both nature and humanity depend on
it. For more information, please contact me at
<mailto:whtagft at hotmail.com>whtagft at hotmail.com or visit my blog:
To clarify things: looking at my national soil pH map califfornia has a
very steep and varied pH range with the soil on the the northern coast being
much acidic than that found inland/south whic tends to be basic as you
disccovered.. pH 9 IS very alkaline. soil pH's of less than 5 are rare but
not unheard of. Decomposed pine/fir needles are very acidic which is why
they only be used in compost in small amounts -unless of course if you have
alkaline soil. maybe that could be the case in Shasta. One sample from
under conifers and other from different microclimate eg limestone present.
pH is defined as the negative logarithm of the concentration of H+ ions
(which "cause" acidity), meaning that as it works out, a pH of 5 is in fact
10 times more acidic than pH 6
by that accepted convention.
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