[env-trinity] env-trinity Digest, Vol 119, Issue 43

Patrick Truman truman at jeffnet.org
Wed Jan 1 19:08:10 PST 2014


more water meters in areas without them would help, we even have water meters in Weaverville, but we all know locations throughout the state that do not have metered water service, perhaps we should start a list of shame.

Patrick Truman
Local Rabble Rouser, and I hope that is not an oxymoron...

From: Deirdre Des Jardins 
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:51 PM
To: env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us 
Subject: Re: [env-trinity] env-trinity Digest, Vol 119, Issue 43

To anyone who studies water use in California, it's becoming increasingly apparent that there is likely to be less water available in the future for agriculture in the state, because of the impacts of climate change and population growth.    

So finding a constructive way to resolve the conflicts between water needs for agriculture and for fish populations is essential.   In dialogues like this all over the state, I  have seen endless discussions about how fish populations might survive with less water, but little discussions of strategies for reducing agricultural water use, such as regulated deficit irrigation, which allows growing crops with less water, or of crop shifting.

These seem like essential strategies but they are hardly even discussed.   In a high water cost situation, regulated deficit irrigation may even increase farmer's profits.
See, for example,  Deficit irrigation for reducing agricultural water use   http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/2/147.abstract

Deirdre Des Jardins
California Water Research


On Wednesday/1/1/14 4:51 PM, Paul Catanese wrote:

  Felice: based on your logic it would seem that indiscriminate over netting at the lower reaches based on bogus projections of fish returns would have a significantly greater negative impact on the on the species than surface water. What say you. Let's be intellectually honest. Let's study that. 


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 1, 2014, at 11:13 AM, "Felice Pace" <unofelice at gmail.com> wrote:


    The second largest Coho run on the Scott in redecent years is good news but the numbers Sari shared indicate that we are not making progress in rebuilding the Scott Coho population to anything near biological viability over the long run. To give raders a more complete view perhpas Sari or Tom will share a full data set for the last 10 years, i.e. the ¨bad¨years as well as the ¨good¨ - so that folks get a more comlete picture. 


    The dewatering of the Scott and key tribs each summer is likely the top factor preventing recovery of Scott Coho to long-term viability. Very few of the progeny of this year´s relatively ¨good¨ run will make it to the ocean. Many will be killed by dewatering below irrigation diversions and others by Klamath mainstem conditions.  A multi-year deep drought could still wipe out Scott Coho. We remain on the edge of functional extinction. Until SWRCB begins or is forced to actually measure and regulate diversions and groundwater pumping Scott Coho will remain on the brink of extinciton. 


    Those who work to ¨protect¨surface and groundwater irrigators from regulation are an impediment to recovery.    


    Felice Pace




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         1. Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run largest since 2007
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      Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -0800 (PST)
      From: Tom Stokely <tstokely at att.net>
      Subject: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
              largest since 2007
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      http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131217/NEWS/131219773?

      December 17. 2013 9:48AM
      Scott River Coho run largest since 2007
      PHOTO/ PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
      The Shasta River video weir, located close to the Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river.
      After a large influx of Coho salmon in the past few weeks, the Scott River has seen its largest return of the species since 2007.?
      The latest data from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife video weirs on the Klamath?s tributaries shows a relatively strong return this year for Chinook and Coho, with the Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in just under the seven year average weir data. Final counts for the Scott also rely on carcass and spawning area counts, which have not yet been finalized.?
      On Bogus Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho passing the video weir have trickled to a halt, with only one Coho returning between Dec. 4 and Dec. 10.?
      So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and 290 Coho, which the data shows is the strongest Coho return since 2004 and the third-smallest Chinook return in that same time period.?
      The end of season for the Shasta counts was called on Dec. 10, due to ice floes damaging the weir on Dec. 9. The Chinook count came in at 8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with 151 Coho, the highest number of that species since 2007.?
      The Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating, according to CDFW?environmental scientist Morgan Knechtle, and once the final numbers are compiled and finalized, they will be used in forecasts for 2014.
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      Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:47:59 -0800
      From: "Sari Sommarstrom" <sari at sisqtel.net>
      Subject: Re: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
              largest since 2007
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      What was missing from the article was the actual number of coho seen at the weir at RM 18 on the Scott River: 1,264 adults as of 12/18. Final figure won?t be available until after the weir closes in early January and the downstream estimate is added in.

      For this same brood year, the recent figure compares with the final weir counts of 911 in 2010 and 1,622 in 2007.



      ~Sari Sommarstrom

      Etna



      From: env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us [mailto:env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us] On Behalf Of Tom Stokely
      Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:15 AM
      To: env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
      Subject: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run largest since 2007



      http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131217/NEWS/131219773

      December 17. 2013 9:48AM


      Scott River Coho run largest since 2007


      The Shasta River video weir,located close to the Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river. <http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/storyimage/CA/20131217/NEWS/131219773/AR/0/AR-131219773.jpg&MaxH=225&MaxW=225>

      PHOTO/ PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE

      The Shasta River video weir, located close to the Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river.

      After a large influx of Coho salmon in the past few weeks, the Scott River has seen its largest return of the species since 2007.
      The latest data from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife video weirs on the Klamath?s tributaries shows a relatively strong return this year for Chinook and Coho, with the Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in just under the seven year average weir data. Final counts for the Scott also rely on carcass and spawning area counts, which have not yet been finalized.
      On Bogus Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho passing the video weir have trickled to a halt, with only one Coho returning between Dec. 4 and Dec. 10.
      So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and 290 Coho, which the data shows is the strongest Coho return since 2004 and the third-smallest Chinook return in that same time period.
      The end of season for the Shasta counts was called on Dec. 10, due to ice floes damaging the weir on Dec. 9. The Chinook count came in at 8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with 151 Coho, the highest number of that species since 2007.
      The Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating, according to CDFW?environmental scientist Morgan Knechtle, and once the final numbers are compiled and finalized, they will be used in forecasts for 2014.

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