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<font size="+1">Since it's been a couple years already, please
recall that in 2008 the Supreme Court</font> <big>rejected lower
court rulings restricting these Navy actions because of asserted
environmental injury. The opinion is <a
href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=07-1239">here.</a></big><br>
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On 12/23/2010 12:54 PM, Joshua Allen wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTi=HXFLZaJZFg3CC1M-ZerYgMz+hDkwp3eWOWQ9E@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Here is more information about the Navy's proposed war
games.<br>
<br>
EPIC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.wildcalifornia.org/blog/navywarfaretraining/">http://www.wildcalifornia.org/blog/navywarfaretraining/</a><br>
<br>
Navy Environmental documentation: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nwtrangecomplexeis.com/Documents.aspx">http://www.nwtrangecomplexeis.com/Documents.aspx</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/23 Brian Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bhill@igc.org">bhill@igc.org</a>></span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">from below;</p>
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The Navy is all set to say that Mendocino County will
not be impacted by Navy training. However, the FEIS
states that<br>
sonar and other warfare testing will be conducted by the
Navy in all areas even during gray whale and fish
migrations.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> Beth Robinson Bosk [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nsi@mcn.org"
target="_blank">nsi@mcn.org</a>] </span><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-----
Original Message ----- </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: none repeat scroll
0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b><span style="font-size:
10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:
10pt;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:info@californiaskywatch.com"
title="info@californiaskywatch.com" target="_blank">Rosalind
Peterson</a> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">To:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sanutter@mcn.org"
title="sanutter@mcn.org" target="_blank">Susan
Nutter</a> </span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> Thursday, December 16, 2010
6:04 AM</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> Additional Note from
Rosalind December 16, 2010</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">December 16, 2010<br>
<br>
Dear Susan:<br>
<br>
When people attend rallies they sometimes don't know
what to ask the Navy...and also they haven't read the<br>
Navy Final Environmental Impact Statement, the Navy
Record of Decision, and other documents. When we
prepared<br>
some optional questions for the Navy...we gave page
numbers in the documents and direct quotes from letters
written<br>
by our elected officials and other information with some
background documentation. This helped many to
understand<br>
more clearly the issues during the rally and before the
meeting. <br>
<br>
The group in Humboldt County made the rally educational
as much as possible so that those who attended were not<br>
just protesting but were putting the Navy on the spot
with their questions...thus, the media coverage was good
and<br>
very pointed...the Navy tried to deny many items but the
page numbers and documents spoke for themselves when<br>
those items were used as a basis for questions...others
asked great questions as well.<br>
<br>
The Navy is all set to say that Mendocino County will
not be impacted by Navy training. However, the FEIS
states that<br>
sonar and other warfare testing will be conducted by the
Navy in all areas even during gray whale and fish
migrations.<br>
This will have an impact in our area as the Navy
Southern California and Hawaiian 5-Year warfare testing
program has been<br>
ongoing for over a year in both places. The Navy
yesterday did not want to talk about those areas and
kept making the<br>
statement that the NWTRC was not part of those warfare
areas...even though the testing the will be conducted in
the NWTRC<br>
is almost identical (per EIS documents), with those
areas.<br>
<br>
The impacts from Southern California and Hawaii 5-Year
warfare testing will be exacerbated by the addition of
new weapons<br>
system testing in the NWTRC, use of sonar, bomb blasts,
etc. The Navy clearly did not want to talk about those
other areas because<br>
it brings to public attention that we are not the only
area with this type of ongoing military warfare
exercises. These and other<br>
questions pressed the Navy hard to find answers to our
questions. <br>
<br>
And one questions that stumped them the most was about
where they were going to dump the toxic chemicals and
debris<br>
used in the NWTRC. They didn't know the answer. In
addition, they could not identify any safe areas where
chemicals could<br>
be released safely in the ocean even though they state
clearly in their FEIS that some items were to be dumped
overboard.<br>
<br>
When questioned the Navy also denied that any of the
toxic chemicals listed and used in the NWTRC were
hazardous and<br>
that they would have no effect on the environment or
marine life. One person read a list of chemicals at
this point and the<br>
Navy reiterated that they were all safe...mercury,
cadmium, lead, red phosphorus, etc. Several people who
called me last<br>
night said that the Navy appeared to be in denial most
of the time. <br>
<br>
I just wanted to prepare you for this event ahead of
time. It would be good to press the Navy with our own
information<br>
from their documents. Also Congressman Thompson's
letter of October 8, 2010, to the Navy is good to
reference as well as<br>
Dr. Lubchenco's statement from the meeting here on
December 9, 2010, in Ukiah. <br>
<br>
My mom is having a lot of difficulties which precludes
me from making many trips. However, if she seems better
today<br>
and her friend will come and be with her while I am
gone...I will be there.<br>
<br>
Just in case - good luck...thank you very much for all
you do. The video that you sent was great - and I sent
it out everywhere<br>
as well...just to see the reaction...it was good. <br>
<br>
Just a note to let you know that our next actions in
Northern California, Oregon, and Washington, will be to
pressure <br>
Congressman Thompson and respective senators to have
NOAA rescind their Permit and Letter of Authorization to
the <br>
Navy until such time as the workshops/working groups are
held in Northern California with regard to the use of
sonar<br>
in our area and protecting our biologically sensitive
areas. They should be held here as soon as possible and
we should<br>
bring that up here with our supervisors...also when I
handed thousands of petitions to Dr. Lubchenco of NOAA I
made<br>
sure to ask for NOAA to rescind their permit and have
the workshops here ASAP. <br>
<br>
Humboldt County, Marin County, and Sonoma County
residents will be making the same requests to their
supervisors<br>
this week as well. We are hoping that this can come up
on the agenda with their next meetings...also we should
continue<br>
to encourage Congressman Thompson and our senators to
work for U.S. Senate Hearings. We shall see.<br>
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-- <br>
"A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part
limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts
and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of
optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of
prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to
affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to
free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature
in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by
the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation
from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of
thinking if humanity is to survive." ~ Albert Einstein, 1954 <br>
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