<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Glen </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Walters is a political hack that keeps droning on and on in the Bee. He outlived his purpose, whatever it was, over 20 years go.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>I disagree with Walters' contention that using public money for Klamath dam removal is unwarranted.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>However, we must absolutely remove ANY Klamath dam removal money from the Water Bond, which creates the infrastructure for a peripheral canal and new dams.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Steinberg, the corporate neo-liberal Democrats, the corporate neo-con Republicans and the worst Governor in California history, Arnold Schwarzenegger, put the Klamath money in the bond </div><div>to falsely link Klamath Dam removal to building a peripheral canal and new dams.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Dan </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:52 PM, <a href="mailto:FISH1IFR@aol.com">FISH1IFR@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font id="role_document" color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial"> <div>Colleagues ---</div> <div> </div> <div>Dan Walters' criticism of investing California tax money in Klamath River salmon restoration efforts, particularly in four-dam removal in what would be the largest dam removal, and one of the most ambitious watershed restoration efforts, in the world comes down to this: <em>Do you think a one-time investment of perhaps $90 million in California tax dollars toward dam removal to help restore the third largest salmon runs in the nation outside Alaska is worth it, in light of the conservatively projected results: a more than 80% increase in salmon returning adult numbers per year in the Klamath, and more than a 46% increase in ocean commercial, and 58% Tribal harvest increase, harvest opportunities all the way up and down the coast, with the major job benefits in California -- is worth the investment?</em></div> <div> </div> <div>These are the salmon economic benefits calculated (conservatively I might add) to flow from the Klamath Dam removal project under the Settlement Agreement in the recently published Draft Environmental Impacts Statement, posted at: <a href="http://www.klamathrestoration.gov">www.klamathrestoration.gov</a>. Check out especially the 4-page summary of economic impacts, and the 4-page Summary of Key Conclusions both at:</div> <div> </div> <div> <a href="http://klamathrestoration.gov/Draft-EIS-EIR/download-draft-eis-eir">http://klamathrestoration.gov/Draft-EIS-EIR/download-draft-eis-eir</a></div> <div> </div> <div>Among other economic benefits, this would restore hundreds of salmon-dependent jobs coastwide, plus the balance of some 4,600 jobs total estimated in the DEIS. See the DEIS for detailed analysis.</div> <div> </div> <div>There is a very long history in California, as elsewhere, in investing tax payer money in watershed and natural resource restoration projects for a very good reason. <u>It helps the economy</u>. In this case it boils down to whether its a good idea to invest (one-time) that $90 million in California tax funds (raised through conservation bonds, as is the general practice) to help stabilize, protect and restore a $150 <em>million/year</em> California salmon economy threatened by complete closures every time the salmon runs in the Klamath collapse. The complete closure of the California ocean commercial salmon season in 2006 is what we have to look forward to more and more unless things improve for salmon in the Klamath. </div> <div> </div> <div>We at PCFFA -- not to mention the affected coastal county of Humboldt -- believe this is a very smart investment in California's economic future. </div> <div> </div> <div>Apparently Dan Walters believes otherwise. But that is his sort-sightedness, not ours.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>=============================================<br>Glen H. Spain, NW Regional Director<br>Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen's Associations (PCFFA)<br>PO Box 11170, Eugene, OR 97440-3370<br>O:(541)689-2000 -- Fax:(541)689-2500<br>Email: <a href="mailto:fish1ifr@aol.com">fish1ifr@aol.com</a><br>Home Page: <a href="http://www.pcffa.org/">www.pcffa.org</a> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <div>In a message dated 11/30/2011 11:26:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, <a href="mailto:tstokely@att.net">tstokely@att.net</a> writes:</div> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="Apple-style-span"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="mi_story_detail_top"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 16px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_header"> <h1 style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 30px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: -1px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 28px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_headline" class="entry-title">Oregon dam removal may cost California</h1> <h2 style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 30px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 20px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_subheadline"></h2></div></div></span> <div><a title="http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/24/2626954/oregon-dam-removal-may-cost-california.html" href="http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/24/2626954/oregon-dam-removal-may-cost-california.html">http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/24/2626954/oregon-dam-removal-may-cost-california.html</a> </div> <div><br></div><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px" class="Apple-style-span"><a style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; COLOR: rgb(52,72,108); TEXT-DECORATION: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="commentCount" title="http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/24/2626954/oregon-dam-removal-may-cost-california.html#disqus_thread" href="http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/11/24/2626954/oregon-dam-removal-may-cost-california.html#disqus_thread" data-disqus-identifier="2626954">3 Comments</a></span><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px" class="Apple-style-span"> (go to the website above to see them- they are all interesting)</span> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 16px" class="Apple-style-span"><br></span></font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="Apple-style-span"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 16px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(105,122,133); FONT-SIZE: 12px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Thursday, Nov. 24, 2011 | 09:42 PM</div></div></div> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.8em; MARGIN: 23px 0px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; CLEAR: both; FONT-SIZE: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_body"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_text_top" class="entry-content"><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">The California Oregon Power Co. was founded in 1911 to supply electricity to the southernmost Oregon counties and the northernmost California counties. It built four hydroelectric power dams on the Klamath River.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">The Klamath cuts across California's northwestern corner and is incredibly remote. Until those dams were built, blocking spawning runs, it supported an immense salmon and steelhead fishery that sustained Indian tribes living along its banks.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">COPCO merged with Pacific Power and Light Co. in 1961. PP&L eventually changed its name to PacificCorp, and in 2005 was acquired by Warren Buffett.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Those Klamath River dams have become very contentious factors in a controversy over how the river's waters should be managed, involving not only their effect on fish, but the water supplies of farmers in the Klamath Basin, the southern Oregon region where the river begins.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">While Indian tribes and commercial fishermen demand elimination of the dams to restore fish runs, farmers worry about irrigation water.</p></div> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FLOAT: left; CLEAR: right; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="assets_ad"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; CLEAR: both; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class="clear"></div></div> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_text_remaining" class="entry-content"><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">The factions have worked out a deal to remove the four dams and restore fish habitat, while protecting water supplies for those farmers. California Rep. Mike Thompson, a Democrat who represents the North Coast, and Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkeley, have introduced legislation to implement it.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">However, a big sticking point is its cost, about a billion dollars. Thompson and Merkeley want the federal government to pay half, which already is drawing opposition in a Republican-controlled Congress. PacificCorp would pay about 25%. The remaining $250 million?</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">The two legislators say it would come from "non-federal sources."</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">They don't say that it would come from California taxpayers, specifically a $250 million chunk of the $11.1 billion state water bond that is scheduled to go before voters next year.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">And why should California taxpayers be on the hook?</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">The dams' removal would have no effect, positive or negative, on our water supply. The semi-official rationale -- weak at best -- is that improving fish runs on the Klamath would offset losses of habitat in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">But the bottom line is that, with interest on the bonds, it's a half-billion-dollar gift from California taxpayers to Oregon farmers and Warren Buffett, because PacificCorp would otherwise have to pay for the dams' removal or attempt to get them relicensed, a virtual impossibility.</p><p style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Given the season, one could say that it's a real turkey.</p></div><br style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" clear="all"> [Unable to display image]</div> <div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(225,225,225) 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(225,225,225) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="story_shirtail"> <div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 30px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(96,132,172); FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; PADDING-TOP: 0px">DAN WALTERS WRITES FOR THE BEE’S CAPITOL BUREAU. 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