<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thomas,</div><div>Thanks for this informative response. <br>Makes sense there is much less LWD recruitment from upper reaches of the watershed, and hopefully the fresh eggs from the big run this fall have survived the wild flows. We were surprised to find numerous redds along our stretch of river near Willow Creek, and observed a dipper one afternoon before the main storm moved in, munching what we are pretty sure were fish eggs. Turns out that is a favored diet with dippers. </div><div><br></div><div>Emelia</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Thomas Shaw <<a href="mailto:fishonshaw@att.net">fishonshaw@att.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div>Nice Emelia!!,</div>
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<div>During my years working on New River, I saw a freight train of large woody debris (LWD) blasting down the thalweg, during a particular peak flow event (spring 1992?). One year, the flows and accompanying LWD left only dangling ropes and cables where a 8' rotary screw trap was once stationed. Huge trees were blasting through every few minutes. Those trap's pontoons almost rode out the New River gorge, but settled up-rite, on top of some house sized boulders. What a ride that must of been. The screw portion of the trap was totally "screwed." We had the parts flown out when the flows subsided. </div>
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<div>I remember LWD naturally being stored in the New River bank full and floodplain, all the way up the drainage, and mobilized during these kind of peak flow events. Many had chainsawed ends. I assume they must settle out somewhere in the plains or ocean below. Unlike below the dam, the LWD, sediment, etc. are naturally replaced from the many plains above. I would expect that the SF, New, NF, and other large tribs, along with the mainstem Trinity above, were pumping out the large amounts LWD that you all saw. </div>
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<div>I seriously doubt any LWD was being transported below Lewiston. Flows remained flat-lined at 300 cfs. So, no LWD recruitment from above or below there, but at least them fish eggs are somewhat safe.</div>
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<div>BTW, I wish I could watch trees going down the river from my spot, as long as the river stayed below. :)</div>
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<div>Tom Shaw <br></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Emilia Berol <<a href="mailto:ema.berol@yahoo.com">ema.berol@yahoo.com</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Trinity List <<a href="mailto:env-trinity@mailman.dcn.org">env-trinity@mailman.dcn.org</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Sun, December 2, 2012 10:33:40 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [env-trinity] Fwd: logs in river<br></font><br>
<div>Watching the Trinity from our spot between Camp Kimtu and the mouth of Willow Creek, I am amazed not only by the volume and velocity of the river today, but by the amount of logs and debris coming down the river ... I haven't seen this many logs in the river since the 70's.... maybe not even then. <span> </span><span>It has been a constant stream of all sizes of debris, all day. </span>They look like schools of sharks and sea serpents floating down the currents. Neighbors sitting out on benches today say it's been like watching a parade. </div>
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<div>Since there isn't much logging going on in the basin below the dam these days, as far as I know, </div>
<div>I can't help but wonder where its all coming from? Could some of this be from blowouts from TRRP projects? a <span>fair amount of the larger logs have straight cuts on at least one side, sometimes both sides. </span><br>And I am wondering if some of it is coming from the South Fork? </div>
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<div>Emelia Berol</div>
<div>TAMWG member</div>
<div>120 Patterson Dr.</div>
<div>Willow Creek, Ca.</div>
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