<div dir="ltr">Can everyone give this a break for 24 hours and see how you feel tomorrow? Eyes on the prize - river restoration.<div><br></div><div style>Colleen</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Joshua Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trinityjosh@gmail.com" target="_blank">trinityjosh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Is this a private fight or can anyone just parachute on in? <br><br></div>Lol. Come on guys; lighten up! I don't know what Pat's intentions were posting this article on the list-serve, being that he didn't state it as such, but I would surmise that it was to help describe the kind of citizen you may just very well run into in Trinity County. Especially those in the alternative farming community or other types living in the mountains who subscribe to the idea of sovereign citizen, which in the past were called "Constitutionalists" in Trinity County, who have been violent at times, and I for one can tell you that there are in fact people armed and dangerous in those hills. As the legitimacy of the federal government is questioned further by a larger portion of the population, combined with preppers, and the potential collapse of our economic and social systems; the number of people that one may run into while attempting to implement restoration efforts within the basin may be hindered. <br>
<br></div>At least, that is what I'm surmising, from my own experience and background in many subjects, including those that pertain with the rise of American angst. That's just my two-cents on the subject and maybe that is why it was posted. Maybe Pat can clarify his intentions? <br>
<br></div>Josh <br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Greg King <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gking@asis.com" target="_blank">gking@asis.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">There are many local people to honor for doing what is "good for our" rivers. But they're not just "ours." More importantly, without the "parachutists" there wouldn't be one damn fish left.<div>
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<div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Patrick - looks like you stirred the local tea pot. This makes a perfect opportunity to create an alliance by tactfully mediating a mutual understanding instead of further polarizing as the baggers would do. Good luck.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, April 08, 2013 10:04 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Michael Caranci; Patrick Truman<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span>ENV Trinity<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [env-trinity] Sovereign Citizens<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Micheal Caranci couldn’t have said it any better and I fully support his comments. Perhaps, one should examine his own yard before casting stones against those who live in the north. You wonder why those of us who actually live , breath and drink this river have a lack of trust of those who parachute into our communities and attempt to tell us what is good for us or our river?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Michael Caranci<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, April 08, 2013 7:55 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Patrick Truman<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span>ENV Trinity<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [env-trinity] Sovereign Citizens<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">What does this story -- not to mention the totally unnecessary bad-mouthing of people who live in Northern California -- have anything to do with the purpose of this mailing list? I thought the purpose was to disseminate information pertaining to the Trinity River and it's environmental concerns? Posting a completely un-related article like this is counter-productive, and to do so along with such derogatory comments is totally uncalled for. <u></u><u></u></div>
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The earlier post attacking conservatives in Wyoming was equally bad. Has this list turned into a soap-box for liberal propaganda attacking those with different ideas and ideologies? Again, what do either of these stories have anything to do with the Trinity River? <u></u><u></u></div>
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<u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Patrick Truman <<a href="mailto:truman@jeffnet.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">truman@jeffnet.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">sounds like some folks around the north state, and they are armed and dangerous...<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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