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<DIV>more water meters in areas without them would help, we even have water
meters in Weaverville, but we all know locations throughout the state that do
not have metered water service, perhaps we should start a list of shame.</DIV>
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<DIV>Patrick Truman</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=campaign@mbaysav.org
href="mailto:campaign@mbaysav.org">Deirdre Des Jardins</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [env-trinity] env-trinity Digest, Vol 119, Issue
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anyone who studies water use in California, it's becoming increasingly apparent
that there is likely to be less water available in the future for agriculture in
the state, because of the impacts of climate change and population
growth. <BR><BR>So finding a constructive way to resolve the
conflicts between water needs for agriculture and for fish populations is
essential. In dialogues like this all over the state, I have
seen endless discussions about how fish populations might survive with less
water, but little discussions of strategies for reducing agricultural water use,
such as regulated deficit irrigation, which allows growing crops with less
water, or of crop shifting.<BR><BR>These seem like essential strategies but they
are hardly even discussed. In a high water cost situation, regulated
deficit irrigation may even increase farmer's profits.<BR>See, for
example, Deficit irrigation for reducing agricultural water
use <A
href="http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/2/147.abstract">http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/2/147.abstract</A><BR><BR>Deirdre
Des Jardins<BR>California Water Research<BR><BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On Wednesday/1/1/14 4:51 PM, Paul Catanese
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Felice: based on your logic it would seem that indiscriminate over
netting at the lower reaches based on bogus projections of fish returns would
have a significantly greater negative impact on the on the species than
surface water. What say you. Let's be intellectually honest. Let's study that.
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<DIV><BR>On Jan 1, 2014, at 11:13 AM, "Felice Pace" <<A
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<DIV>The second largest Coho run on the Scott in redecent years is good news
but the numbers Sari shared indicate that we are not making progress in
rebuilding the Scott Coho population to anything near biological viability
over the long run. To give raders a more complete view perhpas Sari or Tom
will share a full data set for the last 10 years, i.e. the ¨bad¨years as
well as the ¨good¨ - so that folks get a more comlete picture.
<BR><BR></DIV>The dewatering of the Scott and key tribs each summer is
likely the top factor preventing recovery of Scott Coho to long-term
viability. Very few of the progeny of this year´s relatively ¨good¨ run will
make it to the ocean. Many will be killed by dewatering below irrigation
diversions and others by Klamath mainstem conditions. A multi-year
deep drought could still wipe out Scott Coho. We remain on the edge of
functional extinction. Until SWRCB begins or is forced to actually measure
and regulate diversions and groundwater pumping Scott Coho will remain on
the brink of extinciton. <BR><BR></DIV>Those who work to ¨protect¨surface
and groundwater irrigators from regulation are an impediment to
recovery. <BR><BR></DIV>Felice Pace<BR></DIV>
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Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
largest since 2007<BR> (Tom
Stokely)<BR> 2. Re: Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho
run largest
since<BR> 2007 (Sari
Sommarstrom)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
1<BR>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: Tom Stokely
<<A href="mailto:tstokely@att.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">tstokely@att.net</A>><BR>Subject: [env-trinity]
Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho
run<BR> largest since
2007<BR>To: "<A href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us"
moz-do-not-send="true">env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</A>"<BR>
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR><A
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target=_blank
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17. 2013 9:48AM<BR>Scott River Coho run largest since 2007<BR>PHOTO/ PHOTO
COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE<BR>The Shasta River
video weir, located close to the Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by
the icy conditions in the river.<BR>After a large influx of Coho salmon in
the past few weeks, the Scott River has seen its largest return of the
species since 2007.?<BR>The latest data from the California Department of
Fish and Wildlife video weirs on the Klamath?s tributaries shows a
relatively strong return this year for Chinook and Coho, with the Scott?s
Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in just under the seven year average
weir data. Final counts for the Scott also rely on carcass and spawning
area counts, which have not yet been finalized.?<BR>On Bogus Creek, the
numbers of Chinook and Coho passing the video weir have trickled to a
halt, with only one Coho returning between Dec. 4 and Dec. 10.?<BR>So far,
the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and 290 Coho, which the data shows is
the strongest Coho return since 2004 and the third-smallest Chinook return
in that same time period.?<BR>The end of season for the Shasta counts was
called on Dec. 10, due to ice floes damaging the weir on Dec. 9. The
Chinook count came in at 8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with
151 Coho, the highest number of that species since 2007.?<BR>The Scott and
Bogus weirs are still operating, according to CDFW?environmental scientist
Morgan Knechtle, and once the final numbers are compiled and finalized,
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<<A href="mailto:sari@sisqtel.net"
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[env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho
run<BR> largest since
2007<BR>To: "'Tom Stokely'" <<A href="mailto:tstokely@att.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">tstokely@att.net</A>>,<BR>
<<A href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us"
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>What was missing from the article was
the actual number of coho seen at the weir at RM 18 on the Scott River:
1,264 adults as of 12/18. Final figure won?t be available until after the
weir closes in early January and the downstream estimate is added
in.<BR><BR>For this same brood year, the recent figure compares with the
final weir counts of 911 in 2010 and 1,622 in 2007.<BR><BR><BR><BR>~Sari
Sommarstrom<BR><BR>Etna<BR><BR><BR><BR>From: <A
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On Behalf Of Tom Stokely<BR>Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:15
AM<BR>To: <A href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us"
moz-do-not-send="true">env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</A><BR>Subject:
[env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run largest since
2007<BR><BR><BR><BR><A
href="http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131217/NEWS/131219773"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131217/NEWS/131219773</A><BR><BR>December
17. 2013 9:48AM<BR><BR><BR>Scott River Coho run largest since
2007<BR><BR><BR>The Shasta River video weir,located close to the Klamath
River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river. <<A
href="http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/storyimage/CA/20131217/NEWS/131219773/AR/0/AR-131219773.jpg&MaxH=225&MaxW=225"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/storyimage/CA/20131217/NEWS/131219773/AR/0/AR-131219773.jpg&MaxH=225&MaxW=225</A>><BR><BR>PHOTO/
PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE<BR><BR>The
Shasta River video weir, located close to the Klamath River, was damaged
on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river.<BR><BR>After a large influx
of Coho salmon in the past few weeks, the Scott River has seen its largest
return of the species since 2007.<BR>The latest data from the California
Department of Fish and Wildlife video weirs on the Klamath?s tributaries
shows a relatively strong return this year for Chinook and Coho, with the
Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in just under the seven year
average weir data. Final counts for the Scott also rely on carcass and
spawning area counts, which have not yet been finalized.<BR>On Bogus
Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho passing the video weir have
trickled to a halt, with only one Coho returning between Dec. 4 and Dec.
10.<BR>So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and 290 Coho, which the
data shows is the strongest Coho return since 2004 and the third-smallest
Chinook return in that same time period.<BR>The end of season for the
Shasta counts was called on Dec. 10, due to ice floes damaging the weir on
Dec. 9. The Chinook count came in at 8,127, the third-largest return since
2001, with 151 Coho, the highest number of that species since 2007.<BR>The
Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating, according to CDFW?environmental
scientist Morgan Knechtle, and once the final numbers are compiled and
finalized, they will be used in forecasts for 2014.<BR><BR>--------------
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