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Population growth is greatly impacting the state's water use. When
I looked at diversions from the Sacramento Delta by the State and
Federal Water Projects over the last 30 years, I found that 90% of
the increased diversions between the 1990s and 2000-2007 were from
the State Water Project, which is mostly urban. You can see the
graphs of changes in exports by decade here: <a
href="http://nodeltagates.com/mythsfacts/">http://nodeltagates.com/mythsfacts/</a><br>
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I think that almost every river basin in the state is similarly
stressed because of population growth. <br>
<br>
We definitely need to look at how to supply water for housing more
efficiently, and how existing housing can use less water. The
pattern for the last 30 years of building expansive single family
residential subdivisions with large lawns is completely
unsustainable. Either multi-family residential or Xeriscaping is
much more efficient and leaves water in the rivers for both fish and
agriculture. Multi-family residential is also much more energy
efficient.<br>
<br>
Deirdre Des Jardins<br>
California Water Research<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday/1/1/14 10:08 PM, Patrick
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<div>more water meters in areas without them would help, we
even have water meters in Weaverville, but we all know
locations throughout the state that do not have metered
water service, perhaps we should start a list of shame.</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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anyone who studies water use in California, it's becoming
increasingly apparent that there is likely to be less water
available in the future for agriculture in the state,
because of the impacts of climate change and population
growth. <br>
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So finding a constructive way to resolve the conflicts
between water needs for agriculture and for fish populations
is essential. In dialogues like this all over the state,
I have seen endless discussions about how fish populations
might survive with less water, but little discussions of
strategies for reducing agricultural water use, such as
regulated deficit irrigation, which allows growing crops
with less water, or of crop shifting.<br>
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These seem like essential strategies but they are hardly
even discussed. In a high water cost situation, regulated
deficit irrigation may even increase farmer's profits.<br>
See, for example, Deficit irrigation for reducing
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Deirdre Des Jardins<br>
California Water Research<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday/1/1/14 4:51 PM,
Paul Catanese wrote:<br>
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<div>Felice: based on your logic it would seem that
indiscriminate over netting at the lower reaches based
on bogus projections of fish returns would have a
significantly greater negative impact on the on the
species than surface water. What say you. Let's be
intellectually honest. Let's study that. </div>
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On Jan 1, 2014, at 11:13 AM, "Felice Pace" <<a
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<div>The second largest Coho run on the Scott in
redecent years is good news but the numbers
Sari shared indicate that we are not making
progress in rebuilding the Scott Coho
population to anything near biological
viability over the long run. To give raders a
more complete view perhpas Sari or Tom will
share a full data set for the last 10 years,
i.e. the ¨bad¨years as well as the ¨good¨ - so
that folks get a more comlete picture. <br>
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The dewatering of the Scott and key tribs each
summer is likely the top factor preventing
recovery of Scott Coho to long-term viability.
Very few of the progeny of this year´s
relatively ¨good¨ run will make it to the ocean.
Many will be killed by dewatering below
irrigation diversions and others by Klamath
mainstem conditions. A multi-year deep drought
could still wipe out Scott Coho. We remain on
the edge of functional extinction. Until SWRCB
begins or is forced to actually measure and
regulate diversions and groundwater pumping
Scott Coho will remain on the brink of
extinciton. <br>
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Those who work to ¨protect¨surface and groundwater
irrigators from regulation are an impediment to
recovery. <br>
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Felice Pace<br>
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1. Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
largest since 2007<br>
(Tom Stokely)<br>
2. Re: Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho
run largest since<br>
2007 (Sari Sommarstrom)<br>
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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: Tom Stokely <<a
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Subject: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News:
Scott River Coho run<br>
largest since 2007<br>
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December 17. 2013 9:48AM<br>
Scott River Coho run largest since 2007<br>
PHOTO/ PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
FISH AND WILDLIFE<br>
The Shasta River video weir, located close to
the Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the
icy conditions in the river.<br>
After a large influx of Coho salmon in the past
few weeks, the Scott River has seen its largest
return of the species since 2007.?<br>
The latest data from the California Department
of Fish and Wildlife video weirs on the
Klamath?s tributaries shows a relatively strong
return this year for Chinook and Coho, with the
Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in
just under the seven year average weir data.
Final counts for the Scott also rely on carcass
and spawning area counts, which have not yet
been finalized.?<br>
On Bogus Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho
passing the video weir have trickled to a halt,
with only one Coho returning between Dec. 4 and
Dec. 10.?<br>
So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and
290 Coho, which the data shows is the strongest
Coho return since 2004 and the third-smallest
Chinook return in that same time period.?<br>
The end of season for the Shasta counts was
called on Dec. 10, due to ice floes damaging the
weir on Dec. 9. The Chinook count came in at
8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with
151 Coho, the highest number of that species
since 2007.?<br>
The Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating,
according to CDFW?environmental scientist Morgan
Knechtle, and once the final numbers are
compiled and finalized, they will be used in
forecasts for 2014.<br>
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From: "Sari Sommarstrom" <<a
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Subject: Re: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News:
Scott River Coho run<br>
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What was missing from the article was the actual
number of coho seen at the weir at RM 18 on the
Scott River: 1,264 adults as of 12/18. Final
figure won?t be available until after the weir
closes in early January and the downstream
estimate is added in.<br>
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For this same brood year, the recent figure
compares with the final weir counts of 911 in
2010 and 1,622 in 2007.<br>
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~Sari Sommarstrom<br>
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Etna<br>
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Subject: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News:
Scott River Coho run largest since 2007<br>
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December 17. 2013 9:48AM<br>
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Scott River Coho run largest since 2007<br>
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<br>
The Shasta River video weir,located close to the
Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy
conditions in the river. <<a
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PHOTO/ PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
FISH AND WILDLIFE<br>
<br>
The Shasta River video weir, located close to
the Klamath River, was damaged on Dec. 9 by the
icy conditions in the river.<br>
<br>
After a large influx of Coho salmon in the past
few weeks, the Scott River has seen its largest
return of the species since 2007.<br>
The latest data from the California Department
of Fish and Wildlife video weirs on the
Klamath?s tributaries shows a relatively strong
return this year for Chinook and Coho, with the
Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in
just under the seven year average weir data.
Final counts for the Scott also rely on carcass
and spawning area counts, which have not yet
been finalized.<br>
On Bogus Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho
passing the video weir have trickled to a halt,
with only one Coho returning between Dec. 4 and
Dec. 10.<br>
So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and
290 Coho, which the data shows is the strongest
Coho return since 2004 and the third-smallest
Chinook return in that same time period.<br>
The end of season for the Shasta counts was
called on Dec. 10, due to ice floes damaging the
weir on Dec. 9. The Chinook count came in at
8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with
151 Coho, the highest number of that species
since 2007.<br>
The Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating,
according to CDFW?environmental scientist Morgan
Knechtle, and once the final numbers are
compiled and finalized, they will be used in
forecasts for 2014.<br>
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