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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is a great discussion. I also want to offer my respects and condolences to all of those who have experienced loss as well appreciation to those who have
responding to the needs of their communities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Note that the SRA fee that Bill mentions was actually waived as part of the passage of the cap-and-trade deal last summer. It was a big political football and
the waiving of the fee was part of the horse trading that got AB 398 passed. There are participants in this list that supported the passage of AB 398.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The fossil fuel industry passes the expense of cap-and-trade on to consumers at the pump. Thus any funds generated by the sale of allowances to sectors like the
petroleum refiners in the state that then goes to the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund and then is allocated to forest related matters is being paid for by the consumer. Which is hardly the deterrent to inappropriate rural development that might be needed to
change behaviors by land owners.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How our continued burning of fossil fuels impacts our forest ecosystems is a question that the state and many conservation advocates have been reluctant to address,
especially as funding for forest management etc gets tied to the continued and perpetual burning of fossil fuels through anticipated future reliance on funding from the cap-and-trade program or the selling of scientifically dubious and socially unjust forest
offset carbon credits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The fires do again expose in the crudest of terms how flawed the concept is of using the land sector to “offset” or “neutralize” the emissions from burning fossil
fuels. Yet that remains a pillar of the market-based mechanism that California singularly relies on to manage the carbon emissions from the biggest polluters in the state.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Correcting course in this state on questions of forest and climate will require examining many erroneous assumptions, including coming to grips with the role
of fossil fuel energy systems in causing climate change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peggy Berry<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 06, 2018 8:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kier Associates <kierassociates@att.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [env-trinity] The Mercury News: The reason that California wildfires are worse than ever<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Bill Kier and Denise Boggs for shining the spotlight on the truth: Humans who demand to build their homes wherever they want — inaccessible forest lands, ocean cliffs, etc. because they think they are entitled to THEIR OWN wishes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I mourn the firefighters who are then expected to save them and their homes - and sometimes unselfishly give their lives - so others are able to get what they want based on selfish desires and demands.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Something besides money and profit need to redefine “entitlements!”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 5, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Kier Associates <<a href="mailto:kierassociates@att.net">kierassociates@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For what it’s worth<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><u>State</u><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>gov’t leadership has been trying to discourage this building in the Wildland-Urban
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We had some very dry winters in the early ‘60s and some terrible wildfires immediately thereafter. When I joined what is now the CA Natural Resources Agency in early 1964 we were going around
to various local gov’ts, groups, etc., with a film that showed, for example, homes built at the top of canyons in the Santa Monica Mtns, with huge jutting redwood decks from which to view to the ocean, catching the 1,000 degree F.-plus canyon updraft and literally
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There’s been a too-subdued policy discussion for decades about the ‘State Responsibility Lands’, those not served directly by a local fire agency or federal land mgt agency.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As the cost for serving these lands with State fire protection grew over time the State finally instituted a modest annual fee (like $150) on property-owners to help support fire prevention/
suppression on these so-called ‘State Responsibility Lands’</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This fee has become, not surprisingly, a whipping-boy for CA’s mostly-rural conservative politicians – it’s playing heavily into the current legislative discussions about the 2017 wildfires
and into the 2018 election cycle</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For those of us living in urban areas who are paying what we hope is our fair share for fire prevention and suppression services, we – I, anyway – find ourselves 1- aghast at and saddened by
the enormity of the Carr Fire; and 2- wondering when the cost of unbridled residential incursion into the WUI is going to become a sufficient issue in California that the rest of us may see some relief from subsidizing it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:kierassociates@att.net"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kierassociates@att.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.kierassociates.net/"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">www.kierassociates.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">env-trinity
[</span><a href="mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Denise Boggs<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, August 05, 2018 6:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[env-trinity] The Mercury News: The reason that California wildfires are worse than ever</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The National Forests aren’t the problem. It’s people living in areas they shouldn’t be. Interesting stats on CA and the wildfires throughout the state over time. Some of these areas have burned multiple times and people keep rebuilding
in the same place. The state’s landscape is prone to fires and they are going burn regardless. Climate change only makes it worse.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">“The Carr Fire burning in Shasta County was started by a single spark from a towed trailer on a road in Whiskeytown National Recreation Area. It then quickly raced into high-end new residential subdivisions such as Lake Redding Estates,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As California grows, people are moving into the rural edges of cities where we weren't before -- creating an "expanding bull’s eye’ effect" of higher wildfire risk, according to
a new study by geographer Stephen M. Strader of Villanova University.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://apple.news/AO3JyVOhZQvS4W7C_ou3raQ"><span style="color:purple">Read the full story</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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