<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:24px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18766"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18789">Well there are some of out there that live and work in these forest and have lived and worked in them for centuries and we do not see what Bill and Denise have shared as truth. The fact is fire has been suppressed in these forest for decades and now we are all paying the price. These forest must be thinned to save them and the wildlife and people that live near them. Don't throw the forest out with the fires. If anyone would like a tour I am more than willing to take you and show you where the fires have burnt and reburning at a hotter temp. Please get out of the office and go out on the land and see for yourself. Nadine</span></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18767"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18835"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18834"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18836"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><b></b></font> </div><div align="right" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533578275420_18837"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:10px;"><img data-id="99ae6602-c59b-ebe0-db75-a573f62509ec"><br></span></div><div align="right"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:10px;"><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 255);" align="left"><span style="font-style:italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);">Nadine Bailey </span><br style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);">530-276-7743 cell</span></span><br><br style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);">“And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry years. It was always that way.” John Steinbeck<br><br><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#407f00" face="Arial"><br></font></div></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 24px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Peggy Berry <pegberry1@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Kier Associates <kierassociates@att.net> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 6, 2018 9:39 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [env-trinity] The Mercury News: The reason that California wildfires are worse than ever<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2249771438"><div></div><div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="word-wrap:break-word;">Thank you Bill Kier and Denise Boggs for shining the spotlight on the truth: Humans who demand to build their homes wherever they want — inaccessible forest lands, ocean cliffs, etc. because they think they are entitled to THEIR OWN wishes.<div class="yiv2249771438"><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"></div><div class="yiv2249771438">I mourn the firefighters who are then expected to save them and their homes - and sometimes unselfishly give their lives - so others are able to get what they want based on selfish desires and demands.</div><div class="yiv2249771438"><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"></div><div class="yiv2249771438">Something besides money and profit need to redefine “entitlements!”</div><div class="yiv2249771438"><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"></div><div class="yiv2249771438">Peggy Berry<br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438"><blockquote class="yiv2249771438" type="cite"><div class="yiv2249771438yqt1907819047" id="yiv2249771438yqt87107"><div class="yiv2249771438">On Aug 5, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Kier Associates <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" ymailto="mailto:kierassociates@att.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:kierassociates@att.net">kierassociates@att.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438WordSection1" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Trinity environmental list-ers</span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">For what it’s worth<span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="yiv2249771438">State</u><span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span>gov’t leadership has been trying to discourage this building in the Wildland-Urban Interface (WUI) for well more than 50 years.<span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">We had some very dry winters in the early ‘60s and some terrible wildfires immediately thereafter. When I joined what is now the CA Natural Resources Agency in early 1964 we were going around to various local gov’ts, groups, etc., with a film that showed, for example, homes built at the top of canyons in the Santa Monica Mtns, with huge jutting redwood decks from which to view to the ocean, catching the 1,000 degree F.-plus canyon updraft and literally exploding.</span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">There’s been a too-subdued policy discussion for decades about the ‘State Responsibility Lands’, those not served directly by a local fire agency or federal land mgt agency.<span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">As the cost for serving these lands with State fire protection grew over time the State finally instituted a modest annual fee (like $150) on property-owners to help support fire prevention/ suppression on these so-called ‘State Responsibility Lands’</span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">This fee has become, not surprisingly, a whipping-boy for CA’s mostly-rural conservative politicians – it’s playing heavily into the current legislative discussions about the 2017 wildfires and into the 2018 election cycle</span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">For those of us living in urban areas who are paying what we hope is our fair share for fire prevention and suppression services, we – I, anyway – find ourselves 1- aghast at and saddened by the enormity of the Carr Fire; and 2- wondering when the cost of unbridled residential incursion into the WUI is going to become a sufficient issue in California that the rest of us may see some relief from subsidizing it.</span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">‘Best,</span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Bill Kier</span><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></div><div 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New Roman', serif;"> </div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181, 196, 223);padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><b class="yiv2249771438"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span>env-trinity [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" ymailto="mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us">mailto:env-trinity-bounces@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</a>]<span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="yiv2249771438">On Behalf Of<span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Denise Boggs<br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"><b class="yiv2249771438">Sent:</b><span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, August 05, 2018 6:26 PM<br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"><b class="yiv2249771438">To:</b><span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" ymailto="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us">env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</a><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"><b class="yiv2249771438">Subject:</b><span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span>[env-trinity] The Mercury News: The reason that California wildfires are worse than ever</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"> </div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">The National Forests aren’t the problem. It’s people living in areas they shouldn’t be. Interesting stats on CA and the wildfires throughout the state over time. Some of these areas have burned multiple times and people keep rebuilding in the same place. The state’s landscape is prone to fires and they are going burn regardless. Climate change only makes it worse.</div></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"> </div></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">“The Carr Fire burning in Shasta County was started by a single spark from a towed trailer on a road in Whiskeytown National Recreation Area. It then quickly raced into high-end new residential subdivisions such as Lake Redding Estates, where it destroyed 65 upscale homes.”</div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><strong class="yiv2249771438">The reason that California wildfires are worse than ever</strong><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438">The Mercury News</div><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">As California grows, people are moving into the rural edges of cities where we weren't before -- creating an "expanding bull’s eye’ effect" of higher wildfire risk, according to a new study by geographer Stephen M. Strader of Villanova University.<span class="yiv2249771438Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" target="_blank" href="https://apple.news/AO3JyVOhZQvS4W7C_ou3raQ" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;">Read the full story</a></div></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">Denise Boggs</div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" target="_blank" href="http://www.conservationcongress-ca.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;">Www.conservationcongress-ca.org</a></div></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"> </div></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">"Some of them were angry at the way the Earth was abused; By the men who learned how to forge her beauty into power; And they struggled to protect her from them, only to be confused; By the magnitude of the fury in the final hour."</div></div><div class="yiv2249771438"><div class="yiv2249771438" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">'Before the Deluge' Jackson Browne</div></div></div></div></div><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;">env-trinity mailing list</span><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" ymailto="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us">env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</a></span><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="yiv2249771438" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv2249771438" target="_blank" href="http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/env-trinity">http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/env-trinity</a></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none" class="yiv2249771438"></div></div></div></div><div class="yqt1907819047" id="yqt46780">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">env-trinity mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us" href="mailto:env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us">env-trinity@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/env-trinity" target="_blank">http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/env-trinity</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>