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<p>I really enjoyed this thread and value the comments I have read.
I think it is very important to have this discussion.<br>
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<p>I read or interpreted the posts as building houses in forest
areas is problematic as they create a greater need to fight fires
to save those houses and not necessarily that the houses
themselves create fires... the location of these homes create a
greater need to fight the fires and a greater economic loss when
they burn.</p>
<p>I also have this story to contribute that you may find
interesting to read. My son is a Cal-fire fire fighter. He told
me a story about fighting a fire as a member of his four-man
engine crew at night on a ridgetop (I can't recall exactly where
but it was about 2 years ago). They were protecting a nice house
built on that ridge top. The fire got too close and actually came
up quickly so they were slow to retreat. They jumped in the fire
engine and he said the fire swept up and hit the passengers side
window with a blast where he was sitting. He said they have extra
strong glass and the window held. If it had broken, he said the
temperatures likely would have immediately collapsed their
tracheas and presumable the four man crew would have died. They
backed out leaving their hoses to burn. They hit the owners car
on the way out, but were safe. They were able to go back in and
save the house. The engine had scorched paint... and there was a
meeting and discussion about it the next day....so I guess you
call that a close call. Every so often I think about that story
and wonder as I look up at really nice homes built into the forest
on slopes... I would probably want to live there too if I could
afford it...on the other hand, I have neighbors around me where we
live on the edge of town... I have lived further out before but I
now I like living around people better and closer in to the town
area... I get to know my neighbors and I enjoy their company. So,
the way I look at it is there is actually a number of social
benefits to not living in the forest zones besides the fire
fighting problems it creates. We are planning a small
neighborhood party this month...<br>
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<p>If you elected me the king, I would pass a law that those that
still wish to build in the fire zones further out could do so, but
would pay an extra fee or tax that would discourage some building
and would help to pay for the costs of fire fighting. Economist
often say that this sort of cost accounting is an effective way to
change behaviors and still allows some level of choice. But for
now, if I lived further out in a fire zone, I would try to think
through how I am going to behave once a fire appears. <br>
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<p>Kim Mattson</p>
<p>Mount Shasta, CA<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/6/2018 8:35 PM, kristi bevard
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<div dir="auto">My two cents.
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<div dir="auto">Many opinions are being expressed about fires,
responders and land use planning in California.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Many contributing factors to fires in California
exist. It makes no sense to chastise others for choosing to
live near the forest. 1. As it turns out, some of the most
devastating fires in Trinity were caused by government
sponsored agencies burning meadows during a dry, windy day.</div>
<div dir="auto">2. If some folks remember the Santa Rosa fire,
all of the incinerated homes (with the exception of a few
wineries) were in subdivision designed neighborhoods, not
wildland fire hazard areas.</div>
<div dir="auto">3. We, who pay insurance, pay for all
catastrophes, including disasters caused by flooding,
tornadoes and other maladies. For those of us who live in the
forest, our insurance is extremely limited.</div>
<div dir="auto">4. There are many reasons why our lands are
burning;</div>
<div dir="auto">A) little or no weed control from asphalt
shoulder to 12 ft inland on both sides of all roads</div>
<div dir="auto">B) people who improperly chain up when pulling a
trailer</div>
<div dir="auto">C) people who toss lit cigarettes out of their
windows, into dry grass</div>
<div dir="auto">D) transients who have unattended, out of season
fires to keep warm</div>
<div dir="auto">E) lightening strikes</div>
<div dir="auto">F) people driving after their tire has shredded
and their rim throws flames into dry grass which was never cut
by the state, county or fed.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The list above are some reasons we are on fire.
Stop making generalized judgements about people who live in
the country or the forest. Living here doesn't cause fires.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Trust me when I say; we pay for the privilege in
spades.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Kristi A Bevard</div>
<div dir="auto">Former TAMWG member</div>
<div dir="auto">Trinity County Resident</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Aug 5, 2018, 18:26 Denise Boggs <<a
href="mailto:denise@conservationcongress-ca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">denise@conservationcongress-ca.org</a>>
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<div>The National Forests aren’t the problem. It’s people
living in areas they shouldn’t be. Interesting stats on CA
and the wildfires throughout the state over time. Some of
these areas have burned multiple times and people keep
rebuilding in the same place. The state’s landscape is
prone to fires and they are going burn regardless. Climate
change only makes it worse.</div>
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<div>“The Carr Fire burning in Shasta County was started by
a single spark from a towed trailer on a road in
Whiskeytown National Recreation Area. It then quickly
raced into high-end new residential subdivisions such as
Lake Redding Estates, where it destroyed 65 upscale
homes.”<br>
<p><strong>The reason that California wildfires are worse
than ever</strong><br>
The Mercury News</p>
<p>As California grows, people are moving into the rural
edges of cities where we weren't before -- creating an
"expanding bull’s eye’ effect" of higher wildfire risk,
according to a new study by geographer Stephen M.
Strader of Villanova University. <a
href="https://apple.news/AO3JyVOhZQvS4W7C_ou3raQ"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">Read the full story</a></p>
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<div id="m_-7655896946362937155AppleMailSignature">Denise
Boggs
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target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">Www.conservationcongress-ca.org</a></div>
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<div>"Some of them were angry at the way the Earth was
abused; By the men who learned how to forge her beauty
into power; And they struggled to protect her from
them, only to be confused; By the magnitude of the
fury in the final hour."</div>
<div>'Before the Deluge' Jackson Browne</div>
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