[1st-mile-nm] IPv6 in New Mexico

Owen Densmore owen at backspaces.net
Mon Dec 8 08:47:45 PST 2014


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com> wrote:

> On my mobile, so I'll throw a quick poker in the fire:
>
> > IPv6 is critical.
>
> Is it? There is a lot of hand waving and doom-saying about the exhaustion
> of IPv4, but I have yet to hear a good technical argument for IPv4 other
> than "more addresses." Does it offer anything more?
>
> I have various arguments in my head both for and against adoption, but I
> think it is a discussion worth having both here and in the Internet
> community at large.
>
> -Michael


The fact is, being the critters we are, we can evolve out of nearly any
problem we want to.  Generally ignoring "problems" is the best solution.
Pants in a twist just hurts.

In Silicon Valley during the early days of ipv6 there were lots of
interesting reasons for it.  Mobile IP was an interestingly designed subset
that would proxy ip addresses so that you could move around and keep the
same IP no matter where.  It was clever.  And we just evolved around the
problem.  Cellular.  Dynamic IP.  etc.

This was the era of WAP, remember that?  I had HUGE fights with idiots in
telcos about "cellular cannot do IP due to latency and other issues unique
to mobile". Thus the horrid wap strangled us for years.  Now phones are
natively IP .. think LTE .. and latency?  Oh that's just tuning the
wonderfully designed TCP/IP stack.  Sigh.

But thus far, IPv6 has been a marvelous example of the race of a good tech
trying to justify itself in a world evolving faster than it can.  Cellular
was one example where ipv6 seemed to fit like a glove.  Not sure if they
still would like ipv6 at this point.

To tell the truth, router folks are the most likely to want ipv6 as far as
I can tell.  And even they have such a massive set of protocols on their
backbone networks, I'm not sure if they're there yet.

I think its really fun to watch.

   -- Owen
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