[1st-mile-nm] IEEE: 5G is in Danger of Being Oversold

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Fri Mar 2 15:53:23 PST 2018 

A dog looks at you and thinks, "You love me, you feed me, you care for me
-- you must be a god!"

A cat looks at you and thinks, "You love me, you feed me, you care for me
-- I must be a god!"

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dog have masters, cats have staff. My wife and I are staff to two cats. I
> think the world has a surplus of cat memes, but there's always room for a
> few more....and they would accessorize their self-driving catmobiles with
> catnip dispensers, string, and laser pointers.
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> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:41 PM, David Breecker [dba] <
> david at breeckerassociates.com> wrote:
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>> Let’s stay with self-driving cats, could be the next hot YouTube meme ;-)
>>
>> Good weekend to all,
>> db
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>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cars, too. Meow.
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>> On Mar 2, 2018 6:22 PM, editorsteve at gmail.com wrote:
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>>> Self driving cats need to know what all the other cars are doing. Very
>>> opposite of autonomous.
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2018 6:15 PM, "Doug Orr" <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure mimo is going to be like multiprocessor compensating
>>>> for the demise of Moore's law in processors around transistor density:
>>>> applications have to change for it to be of profound use, it won't speed up
>>>> things to their advertised potential, except maybe a few new things come
>>>> out as the result of new end to end stacks...
>>>>
>>>> Most of the speed hacks don't look like they will work well for
>>>> anything other than big parallel transfers, and latency is still speed of
>>>> light constrained. Anything involving the edge starts to eat power and
>>>> comes with troublesome consistency issues.
>>>>
>>>> People picturing super fast web and 8k movies are likely in for some
>>>> surprises.
>>>>
>>>> Self driving cars will need to be largely autonomous, so I find all of
>>>> the talk about how they are the 5g killer app confusing. That may just be
>>>> my ignorance. Wrt super chatty self driving cars, aggregate bandwidth is
>>>> the issue and there will be a lot of work carriers have to do to support
>>>> cell density at scale. Having your car stop working in a cell dead zone
>>>> seems like a bad consumer experience...
>>>>
>>>> 5g looks like the primary muddier of 5g waters to me.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018, 3:54 PM Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One could argue Samsung, with new LTE technology (4x4 MIMO antenna,
>>>>> frequency aggregation, 256 QAM) introduced in their S8 phone, may have
>>>>> muddied the 5G waters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/28/18, 1:43 PM, "1st-mile-nm on behalf of Richard Lowenberg" <
>>>>> 1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org on behalf of rl at 1st-mile.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Following on recent postings.     RL
>>>>>
>>>>>     -------
>>>>>
>>>>>     Commercial service is years away, but even then, 5G won’t fulfill
>>>>> all of
>>>>>     its promises
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/5g-is-in-danger-o
>>>>> f-being-oversold
>>>>>
>>>>>     By Stacey Higginbotham
>>>>>
>>>>>     Just like graphene or Elon Musk’s startups, 5G has become a
>>>>> technology
>>>>>     savior. Proponents tout the poorly defined wireless technology as
>>>>> the
>>>>>     path to virtual reality, telemedicine, and self-⁠driving cars.
>>>>>
>>>>>     But 5G is not a technology—it’s a buzzword unleashed by marketing
>>>>>     departments. As early as 2012, Broadcom was using it to sell
>>>>> Wi-Fi. In
>>>>>     reality, 5G is a term that telecommunications investors and
>>>>> executives
>>>>>     sling around as the solution to high infrastructure costs, the
>>>>> need for
>>>>>     more bandwidth, and a desire to boost margins.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The unifying component behind 5G is faster wireless broadband
>>>>> service. A
>>>>>     more stringent—and practical—definition is the use of
>>>>> high-frequency
>>>>>     millimeter waves (in addition to the microwaves that 4G LTE relies
>>>>> on
>>>>>     today) to deliver over-the-air broadband to phones or homes.
>>>>>
>>>>>     If you’re talking about phones, 5G is still years away. And new
>>>>> services
>>>>>     aren’t really on the menu. Just listen to the heads of several
>>>>>     telecommunications companies, who have begun to tamp down
>>>>> investors’
>>>>>     expectations around what 5G can deliver.
>>>>>
>>>>>     (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
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