[1st-mile-nm] IEEE: 5G is in Danger of Being Oversold

Fri Mar 2 17:05:36 PST 2018

Oops. Really a typo started us down a different road. Sorry. Sorry. Meow.

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org> wrote:

> My cat knows she is a Goddess or certainly conducts herself in a manner
> befitting a Goddess.
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> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of
> Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, March 2, 2018 at 5:27 PM
> *To: *Mimbres Communications <mimcom at sw-ei.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] IEEE: 5G is in Danger of Being Oversold
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> I think the cats started that way with the egyptians... As gods.  There
> are mainly dog families in our NYC apartment building, mainly cat families
> in our Boston building, and we all adjust and care for each other's pets.
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> The quadrapeds know they all have a good thing going. And so do we. Btw
> check out cat with ipad videos. Sigh.
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> Btw, my wife has the S8 Note, which doubles as lightsaber and room heater.
> But it does not handle band 71. The S9 does. And The LG v30. Need it for my
> rural trips. Band 71 is the 600 mhz band tmobile is rolling out. Time to
> upgrade my S3 Note....
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> On Mar 2, 2018 6:53 PM, "Mimbres Communications" <mimcom at sw-ei.com> wrote:
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> A dog looks at you and thinks, "You love me, you feed me, you care for me
> -- you must be a god!"
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> A cat looks at you and thinks, "You love me, you feed me, you care for me
> -- I must be a god!"
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> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dog have masters, cats have staff. My wife and I are staff to two cats. I
> think the world has a surplus of cat memes, but there's always room for a
> few more....and they would accessorize their self-driving catmobiles with
> catnip dispensers, string, and laser pointers.
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> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:41 PM, David Breecker [dba] <
> david at breeckerassociates.com> wrote:
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> Let’s stay with self-driving cats, could be the next hot YouTube meme ;-)
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> Good weekend to all,
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> db
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> On Mar 2, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Cars, too. Meow.
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> On Mar 2, 2018 6:22 PM, editorsteve at gmail.com wrote:
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> Self driving cats need to know what all the other cars are doing. Very
> opposite of autonomous.
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> On Mar 2, 2018 6:15 PM, "Doug Orr" <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure mimo is going to be like multiprocessor compensating for
> the demise of Moore's law in processors around transistor density:
> applications have to change for it to be of profound use, it won't speed up
> things to their advertised potential, except maybe a few new things come
> out as the result of new end to end stacks...
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> Most of the speed hacks don't look like they will work well for anything
> other than big parallel transfers, and latency is still speed of light
> constrained. Anything involving the edge starts to eat power and comes with
> troublesome consistency issues.
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> People picturing super fast web and 8k movies are likely in for some
> surprises.
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> Self driving cars will need to be largely autonomous, so I find all of the
> talk about how they are the 5g killer app confusing. That may just be my
> ignorance. Wrt super chatty self driving cars, aggregate bandwidth is the
> issue and there will be a lot of work carriers have to do to support cell
> density at scale. Having your car stop working in a cell dead zone seems
> like a bad consumer experience...
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> 5g looks like the primary muddier of 5g waters to me.
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> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018, 3:54 PM Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org> wrote:
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> One could argue Samsung, with new LTE technology (4x4 MIMO antenna,
> frequency aggregation, 256 QAM) introduced in their S8 phone, may have
> muddied the 5G waters.
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> Jeff
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> On 2/28/18, 1:43 PM, "1st-mile-nm on behalf of Richard Lowenberg" <
> 1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org on behalf of rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
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>     Following on recent postings.     RL
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>     Commercial service is years away, but even then, 5G won’t fulfill all
> of
>     its promises
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>     https://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/5g-is-in-
> danger-of-being-oversold
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>     By Stacey Higginbotham
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>     Just like graphene or Elon Musk’s startups, 5G has become a technology
>     savior. Proponents tout the poorly defined wireless technology as the
>     path to virtual reality, telemedicine, and self-⁠driving cars.
>
>     But 5G is not a technology—it’s a buzzword unleashed by marketing
>     departments. As early as 2012, Broadcom was using it to sell Wi-Fi. In
>     reality, 5G is a term that telecommunications investors and executives
>     sling around as the solution to high infrastructure costs, the need for
>     more bandwidth, and a desire to boost margins.
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>     The unifying component behind 5G is faster wireless broadband service.
> A
>     more stringent—and practical—definition is the use of high-frequency
>     millimeter waves (in addition to the microwaves that 4G LTE relies on
>     today) to deliver over-the-air broadband to phones or homes.
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>     If you’re talking about phones, 5G is still years away. And new
> services
>     aren’t really on the menu. Just listen to the heads of several
>     telecommunications companies, who have begun to tamp down investors’
>     expectations around what 5G can deliver.
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>     (snip)
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